Defining Emitter vs Observer for Schwarzschild Metric

In summary, Dale is asking about the definition of u as measured by the emitter. Dale doesn't understand how to do the substitution and so he is asking for a summary of what u is. The summary is that u is just some function of t and r.
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MarkovMarakov
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Let's say we are working with the Schwarzschild metric and we have an emitter of light falling into a Schwarzschild black hole.

Suppose we define the quantity [itex]u=t- v[/itex] where [itex]dv/dr= 1/(1-r_{s}/r)[/itex] where [itex]r_s[/itex] is the Schwarzschild radius. What is the [itex]u[/itex] as observed by the emitter? I just need a *definition of [itex]u_e[/itex]*. I have problems identifying the quantities as measured by an observer at large [itex]r[/itex] and that of the emitter. Would I be right at least to say that [itex]t_{e}=\tau[/itex] the proper time? Many thanks.

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In fact, I've been told that

$$du_o/d\tau=du_e/d\tau$$

Why is it?
 
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MarkovMarakov said:
Let's say we are working with the Schwarzschild metric and we have an emitter of light falling into a Schwarzschild black hole.

Suppose we define the quantity $$u=t- v$$ where $$dv/dr= 1/(1-r_{s}/r)$$ where $r_s$ is the Schwarzschild radius. What is the $u$ as observed by the emitter? I just need a *definition of $u$*.
I don't understand. You already gave the definition of u as u=t-v.
 
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@DaleSpam: You are right. I have missed out the subscript [itex]e[/itex]. I meant [itex]u[/itex] as measured by the emitter.
 
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Well, v is just some function of r and so u is just some function of t and r. I don't see how it is something measured by anyone.

Please fix your LaTeX.
 
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@DaleSpam: LaTex fixed. I suppose [itex]u_e[/itex] would be in terms of [itex]t_e,r_e[/itex] measured by the emitter, no? But then what is its explicit form?
 
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Well, what coordinate system do you want to use for the emitter? Then you would just have to substitute in the transforms for the emitter's coordinates.
 
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@DaleSpam: the proper time is that of the emitter. I am still not sure how to do the substitution though. (Sorry about my daftness. :( )
 

FAQ: Defining Emitter vs Observer for Schwarzschild Metric

What is an emitter in the context of the Schwarzschild metric?

An emitter is an object that emits electromagnetic radiation, such as light or radio waves. In the context of the Schwarzschild metric, it refers to a body or particle that is the source of the gravitational field.

What is an observer in the context of the Schwarzschild metric?

An observer is an entity that detects and measures the effects of the gravitational field. In the context of the Schwarzschild metric, it is typically a stationary or moving body that is affected by the gravitational field of the emitting object.

How is the Schwarzschild metric used to describe the gravitational field around a spherically symmetric object?

The Schwarzschild metric is a mathematical solution to Einstein's field equations that describes the curvature of spacetime around a spherically symmetric object. It is used to calculate the gravitational field and predict the behavior of objects in this curved spacetime.

What is the difference between an emitter and an observer in the Schwarzschild metric?

The main difference between an emitter and an observer in the Schwarzschild metric is their role in the gravitational field. An emitter is the source of the gravitational field, while an observer is affected by the gravitational field and measures its effects on other objects.

How does the Schwarzschild metric affect the behavior of light around a massive object?

The Schwarzschild metric predicts that light will be bent or deflected as it travels near a massive object, due to the curvature of spacetime. This effect, known as gravitational lensing, has been observed and confirmed in various astronomical observations.

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