Definite Integral challenge #4

In summary, the problem is to evaluate $$2^{2009}\frac{\displaystyle \int_0^1 x^{1004}(1-x)^{1004}\,dx}{\displaystyle \int_0^1x^{1004}(1-x^{2010})^{1004}\,dx}$$ without the use of beta or gamma functions. The suggested solution uses elementary approaches and avoids the use of omega or alpha functions. The solution is not provided in order to encourage others to solve the problem.
  • #1
Saitama
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Evaluate:

$$2^{2009}\frac{\displaystyle \int_0^1 x^{1004}(1-x)^{1004}\,dx}{\displaystyle \int_0^1x^{1004}(1-x^{2010})^{1004}\,dx}$$

...of course without the use of beta or gamma functions. :p
 
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  • #2
Pranav said:
...of course without the use of beta or gamma functions. :p

Can we use omega or alpha functions? :rolleyes:
 
  • #3
I like Serena said:
Can we use omega or alpha functions? :rolleyes:

Nope. :P

I should have said that the problem is to be solved by elementary approaches.
 
  • #4
Hint:

Integration by parts is a powerful tool.
 
  • #5
Krizalid said:
Hint:

Integration by parts is a powerful tool.

Hi Krizalid!

This isn't a homework problem, can you please complete your solution? :rolleyes:
 
  • #6
I know, it's just that I know the solution but I want other peoply to try it. :D
 
  • #7
Let $\alpha = 1004$ and $\beta=2010$
I will try to calculate the integral:
\[I = 2^{\beta -1}\frac{\int_{0}^{1}x^\alpha (1-x)^\alpha dx}{\int_{0}^{1}x^\alpha (1-x^\beta )^\alpha dx}\]
Calculating the nominator:
\[\int_{0}^{1}x^\alpha (1-x)^\alpha dx = \left [ \frac{1}{\alpha +1}x^{\alpha +1}(1-x)^\alpha \right ]_{0}^{1}+\frac{\alpha }{\alpha +1}\int_{0}^{1}x^{\alpha+1}(1-x)^{\alpha -1}dx \\\\=\frac{\alpha }{\alpha +1}\int_{0}^{1}x^{\alpha+1}(1-x)^{\alpha -1}dx=\frac{\alpha}{\alpha+1}\left ( \left [ \frac{1}{\alpha+2}x^{\alpha+2}(1-x)^{\alpha-1} \right ]_{0}^{1} +\frac{\alpha-1}{\alpha+2}\int_{0}^{1}x^{\alpha+2}(1-x)^{\alpha-2}dx\right) \\\\=\frac{\alpha(\alpha-1)}{(\alpha+1)(\alpha+2)}\int_{0}^{1}x^{\alpha+2}(1-x)^{\alpha-2}dx = ... = \frac{\alpha!}{(\alpha+1)(\alpha+2)...(2\alpha+1)}=\frac{(\alpha!)^2}{(2\alpha+1)!}\]

Calculating the denominator:
\[\int_{0}^{1}x^\alpha (1-x^\beta)^\alpha dx = \left [ \frac{1}{\alpha +1}x^{\alpha +1}(1-x^\beta)^\alpha \right ]_{0}^{1}+\frac{\beta\alpha }{\alpha +1}\int_{0}^{1}x^{\alpha+\beta}(1-x^\beta)^{\alpha -1}dx \\\\=\frac{\beta\alpha }{\alpha +1}\int_{0}^{1}x^{\alpha+\beta}(1-x^\beta)^{\alpha -1}dx=\frac{\beta\alpha}{\alpha+1}\left ( \left [ \frac{1}{\alpha+\beta+1}x^{\alpha+\beta+1}(1-x^\beta)^{\alpha-1} \right ]_{0}^{1} +\frac{\beta(\alpha-1)}{\alpha+\beta+1}\int_{0}^{1}x^{\alpha+2\beta}(1-x)^{\alpha-2}dx\right) \\\\=\frac{\beta^2\alpha(\alpha-1)}{(\alpha+1)(\alpha+1+\beta)}\int_{0}^{1}x^{
\alpha+2\beta}(1-x^\beta)^{\alpha-2}dx\\\\ = \frac{\beta^3\alpha(\alpha-1)(\alpha-2)}{(\alpha+1)(\alpha+1+\beta)(\alpha+1+2\beta)} \int_{0}^{1}x^{\alpha+3\beta}(1-x^\beta)^{\alpha-3}dx= ... = \frac{\beta^{\alpha}\alpha!}{(\alpha+1)(\alpha+1+ \beta)(\alpha+1+2\beta)...(\alpha+1+\alpha\beta)}\]

Thus, the integral can be written:

\[I = 2^{\beta-1}\frac{(\alpha!)^2(\alpha+1)(\alpha+1+\beta)( \alpha+1+2\beta)...(\alpha+1+\alpha\beta)}{\beta^{\alpha}\alpha!(2\alpha+1)!}\]

$I$ can be reduced considerably:

\[I = 2^{\beta-1}\frac{(\alpha!)^2(\alpha+1)(\alpha+1+\beta)(
\alpha+1+2\beta)...(\alpha+1+\alpha\beta)}{\beta^{\alpha}\alpha!(2\alpha+1)!} \\\\=2^{\beta-1}\frac{(\alpha+1)!\frac{3}{2}\frac{5}{2}\frac{7}{2}...\frac{2\alpha+1}{2}}{(2\alpha+1)!}=2^{\alpha+1}\frac{(\alpha+1)!(2\alpha+1)!}{(2\alpha+1)!2^{
\alpha}\alpha!}=2(\alpha+1)=\beta = 2010\]
 
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  • #8
ATTENTION :
lfdahl is using the prohibited beta :p.
 
  • #9
Here goes the solution without the use of weird functions. :p

(Suggested solution)

Let
$$N(k)=\int_0^1 x^k(1-x)^k\,dx \,\,\,(*)$$
and
$$D(k)=\int_0^1x^k(1-x^{2k+2})^k\,dx\,\,\,(**)$$
Use the substitution $x^{k+1}=t$ to obtain:
$$D(k)=\frac{1}{k+1}\int_0^1 (1-t^2)^k\,dt$$
$$\Rightarrow \frac{1}{2(k+1)}\int_{-1}^1 (1-t^2)^k\,dt=\frac{2^{2k-1}}{k+1}\int_{-1}^1 \left(\frac{1-x}{2}\right)^k\left(\frac{1+x}{2}\right)^k\,dx$$
Next, use the substitution,
$$\frac{1+x}{2}=u \Rightarrow dx=2du$$
to obtain:
$$D(k)=\frac{2^{2k}}{k+1}\int_0^1 u^k(1-u)^k\,du=\frac{2^{2k}}{k+1} \int_0^1 x^k(1-x)^k\,dx$$
$$D(k)=\frac{2^{2k}}{k+1}N(k)$$
Hence,
$$2^{2k+1}\frac{N(k)}{D(k)}=2(k+1)$$
Since $k=1004$, hence,
$$2^{2009}\frac{N(1004)}{D(1004)}=2(1004+1)=\boxed{2010}$$
 
  • #10
Nice solution!

(I miss the thanks button. ;))
 
  • #11
Pranav said:
Here goes the solution without the use of weird functions. :p

(Suggested solution)

Let
$$N(k)=\int_0^1 x^k(1-x)^k\,dx \,\,\,(*)$$
and
$$D(k)=\int_0^1x^k(1-x^{2k+2})^k\,dx\,\,\,(**)$$
Use the substitution $x^{k+1}=t$ to obtain:
$$D(k)=\frac{1}{k+1}\int_0^1 (1-t^2)^k\,dt$$
$$\Rightarrow \frac{1}{2(k+1)}\int_{-1}^1 (1-t^2)^k\,dt=\frac{2^{2k-1}}{k+1}\int_{-1}^1 \left(\frac{1-x}{2}\right)^k\left(\frac{1+x}{2}\right)^k\,dx$$
Next, use the substitution,
$$\frac{1+x}{2}=u \Rightarrow dx=2du$$
to obtain:
$$D(k)=\frac{2^{2k}}{k+1}\int_0^1 u^k(1-u)^k\,du=\frac{2^{2k}}{k+1} \int_0^1 x^k(1-x)^k\,dx$$
$$D(k)=\frac{2^{2k}}{k+1}N(k)$$
Hence,
$$2^{2k+1}\frac{N(k)}{D(k)}=2(k+1)$$
Since $k=1004$, hence,
$$2^{2009}\frac{N(1004)}{D(1004)}=2(1004+1)=\boxed{2010}$$

Nice solution indeed! I also miss the thanks-button
 

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