Degrees of freedom (question based on an interview I attended)

In summary, the number of degrees of freedom (in both translation and rotational senses) this part has with respect to each axis depends upon the question being asked of this object.
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This question is based on an interview I attended. I coudn't answer the question convincingly to myself. So seeking some help here.
I was asked by an interviewer the number of degrees of freedom (in both translation and rotational senses) this part has with respect to each axis. Indeed I can share what I think of here, but I want to start it fresh and correct.
If you were the interviewee, what would have been your answer and the rational associated?

Spring block - Degrees of freedom problem.jpg
Thanks in advance!
Edit: Added this --> (in both translation and rotational senses)
 
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My answer would be that you have not specified the problem. The number of relevant degrees of freedom depends upon the question being asked of this object. For instance it contains ~NAvagadro atoms but those degrees of freedom can be replaced by a suitable average.
So you need to consider the minimum number of variables required to specify the system. It would be easier and better for you to tell us your solution first.
 
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hutchphd said:
My answer would be that you have not specified the problem. The number of relevant degrees of freedom depends upon the question being asked of this object. For instance it contains ~NAvagadro atoms but those degrees of freedom can be replaced by a suitable average.
So you need to consider the minimum number of variables required to specify the system. It would be easier and better for you to tell us your solution first.
Thanks for your answer. It is a mehcanical problem and hence I would not get into the atomic level.
My answer (I think) was this:

XCCW
1​
CW
1​
Until the gap in the groove is closed
+
1​
Acc. to stiffness of leaf spring
-
1​
Acc. to stiffness of leaf spring
YCCW
1​
Acc. to stiffness of leaf spring
CW
1​
Acc. to stiffness of leaf spring
+
0​
-
0​
ZCCW
0​
CW
0​
+
0​
-
 
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I'd go with six DOF.

Translation:
  • X (leaf spring)
  • Y (groove)
  • Z (leaf spring)

Rotation:
  • X (groove)
  • Y (leaf spring)
  • Z (leaf spring; twisting)
 
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Here's how I would attack this problem. My assumption is that the interviewer is more interested in how I attack problems than whether I can come up with (the)(a) correct answer during the interview. That being the case, I would expect that the interviewer wants to hear my thought process more than (s)he wants to hear my conclusions. So this is what I would be saying, somewhat paraphrased:

"The assembly consists of a top block, a leaf spring, and a bottom block with features."

"The leaf spring is flexible in the X direction, but is rigid in the Y direction."

"Similarly, the bottom block is flexible about the X axis, and rigid in the other axes."

"The top block is rigidly fastened to the machine, so has zero DOF."

"The bottom surface of the bottom block is rigidly connected to the machine, so has zero DOF. The fact that it is fastened to a vibrating member does not affect the DOF."

"The slot machined in the bottom piece would allow the bottom piece to flex. However, such flexing is prevented by the leaf spring. Zero DOF for flexing about the X axis."

"The leaf spring allows the bottom block to move in the X direction, but the bottom block is fastened to the machine. Zero DOF for the bottom block in the X-direction."

"I see one DOF - the middle of the leaf spring can be moved in the X direction. Even though it cannot be moved very far, it is one DOF."

"Conclusion - one DOF."
 
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As part of the process, I would first ask what it means that the bottom member can "vibrate" (does that mean move freely or only in a particular fashion). This is a terrible test question but not a bad interview question.
I agree the important part of the answer is to
  1. Define the unfettered system
  2. Apply the constraints
Is there a way change the question so it would also overtly require reliance on symmetry ?
 
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hutchphd said:
but not a bad interview question.
I agree.

A good response would include questions from you - like "is motion of the lea spring only a DOF, or is it treated as internal, like atomic motion?" The answer they are looking for is not a number, its whether you can ask good clarifying questions.
 
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FAQ: Degrees of freedom (question based on an interview I attended)

What are degrees of freedom in statistics?

Degrees of freedom in statistics refer to the number of independent values or quantities that can vary in an analysis without breaking any constraints. It is a crucial concept in various statistical tests, as it affects the shape of the sampling distribution and the critical values used for hypothesis testing.

How do you calculate degrees of freedom for a t-test?

For a simple t-test, the degrees of freedom are calculated as the total number of observations minus the number of parameters estimated. For a one-sample t-test, it is n - 1, where n is the number of observations. For an independent two-sample t-test, it is n1 + n2 - 2, where n1 and n2 are the sample sizes of the two groups.

Why are degrees of freedom important in statistical tests?

Degrees of freedom are important because they determine the critical values of various statistical distributions, such as the t-distribution and the chi-square distribution. These critical values are used to decide whether to reject the null hypothesis. The degrees of freedom affect the shape of these distributions and, consequently, the thresholds for significance.

What is the relationship between degrees of freedom and sample size?

The degrees of freedom generally increase with the sample size. For many statistical tests, a larger sample size results in more degrees of freedom, which in turn makes the test more sensitive and reliable. This is because a larger sample size provides more information and reduces the uncertainty in estimating population parameters.

Can degrees of freedom be a non-integer value?

Yes, degrees of freedom can be non-integer values in certain statistical methods. For example, in the Welch's t-test, which is used when the two sample variances are not assumed to be equal, the degrees of freedom are calculated using a formula that can result in a non-integer value. This adjusted degrees of freedom accounts for the unequal variances and sample sizes.

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