Derivative Question: Show d2y/dx2 for x^5 + y^5 = 5??

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In summary, for the relation x^5 + y^5 = 5, the second derivative d2y/dx2 is equal to -20x^3/y^9. This is obtained by taking the derivative of both sides of the equation and using the quotient rule to find the second derivative.
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Homework Statement


For the Relation defined by x^5 + y^5 = 5 show that d2y/dx2.

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x^5 + y^5 = 5
5x^4 + 5^4dy/dx = 0
d2y/dx2 = - 20x^3/20y^3

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[tex]x^5+y^5=5[/tex]
[tex]5x^4dx+5y^4dy=0[/tex]
[tex]5x^4dx=-5y^4dy[/tex]
[tex]-\frac{5x^4}{5y^4}=\frac{dy}{dx}[/tex]
[tex]\frac{5y^4(-20x^3)+5x^4(20y^3)}{25y^8}=\frac{d^2y}{dx^2}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{d^2y}{dx^2}=\frac{100x^4y^3-100x^3y^4}{25y^8}[/tex]
 
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The answer says d^2y/dx^2 = -20x^3/y^9.

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d/dx(x^5) + d/dx(y^5) = d/dx(5)
5x^4 + 5y^4 * y' = 0
5x^4 = -5y^4 * y'
y' = 5x^4/(-5y^4)
y' = x^4/(-y^4)

y'' = [-y^4 * d/dx(x^4) - x^4 * d/dx(-y^4)]/(y^8)
y'' = [-4y^4 * x^3 + 4x^4y^3 * y']/(y^8)
substitute y'
y'' = [-4y^4 * x^3 + 4x^4 * y^3 * (x^4/(-y^4))]/(y^8)
y'' = [-4y^4 * x^3 - 4x^8/(y)]/(y^8)
multiply by y
y'' = -4[y^5 * x^3 + x^8)]/y^9
substitute y^5 = 5 - x^5
y'' = -4[(5 - x^5) * x^3 + x^8]/y^9
y'' = -4[5x^3 - x^8 + x^8]/y^9
y'' = -20x^3/y^9

Sorry, I haven't quite had time to try LaTeX yet...
 
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Thank you very much Kuno.. great help.
 

FAQ: Derivative Question: Show d2y/dx2 for x^5 + y^5 = 5??

1. What is the meaning of d2y/dx2 in this equation?

The notation d2y/dx2 represents the second derivative of the function y with respect to x. In other words, it is the rate of change of the slope of the function y with respect to x.

How do you find the second derivative of x^5 + y^5 = 5?

To find the second derivative, we first need to take the derivative of both sides of the equation with respect to x. This gives us 5x^4 + 5y^4(dy/dx) = 0. Then, we can use implicit differentiation to find dy/dx, which is equal to -x^4/y^4. Finally, we can take the derivative of this expression with respect to x to find the second derivative, which is equal to -4x^3/y^4 - 4x^4y^3(dy/dx).

What is the significance of the second derivative in this equation?

The second derivative can tell us about the concavity of the function y. If the second derivative is positive, the function is concave up and if it is negative, the function is concave down. In this equation, the second derivative can also help us find points of inflection, where the concavity of the function changes.

Can you explain the steps to find the second derivative in this equation?

To find the second derivative, we first take the derivative of both sides of the equation with respect to x. Then, we use implicit differentiation to find dy/dx. Finally, we take the derivative of this expression with respect to x to find the second derivative.

How can the second derivative be used to analyze the graph of this equation?

The second derivative can help us identify the points of inflection and the concavity of the graph. It can also help us determine the maximum and minimum values of the function. By graphing the second derivative, we can get a better understanding of the behavior of the function and make predictions about its graph.

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