Derivatives and shortest length

In summary, the goal is to find a point x in which f'(x) = 0. x/\sqrt{a^2+x^2} = (1-x)/\sqrt{(x-1)^2+b^2} and x\sqrt{(x-1)^2+b^2} = (1-x)\sqrt{a^2+x^2}. Squaring both sides and solving for x, it appears that x = (a/b) + 1.
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Homework Statement



A straight line is drawn from the point (0,a) to horizontal axis, and then back to (1,b). Prove that the total length is shortest when the angles [tex]\alpha[/tex] and [tex]\beta[/tex] are the same.

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The Attempt at a Solution



Hey all, just having some trouble with this question. I thought about attacking it first by finding a maximum/minimum area of the triangle, since we probably can't assume at this point (other than the 90 degree angle with the y-axis) that [tex]\alpha[/tex] or [tex]\beta[/tex] are 30/60/90.) Is that a correct step to take, or should I start concerning myself with the angles right away?

Any help is appreciated! Thanks again
 
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I wouldn't immediately bother about the angles.

Lets first try to see what the total length could be, given a point (x,0)

The length from (0,a) to (x,0) is [tex] \sqrt{a^2+x^2} [/tex].
The length from (x,0) to (1,b) is [tex] \sqrt{(x-1)^2+b^2} [/tex]

So the total length is [tex] \sqrt{a^2+x^2}+\sqrt{(x-1)^2+b^2}[/tex].
This gives a function
[tex] f(x)=\sqrt{a^2+x^2}+\sqrt{(x-1)^2+b^2}[/tex].

The goal is now to find the point x in which f reaches a minimum.
 
  • #3
Hi micromass,

I actually had gotten up to that point, I probably should've written some of it down, but I ignored it because I kept getting led nowhere. But perhaps it's because I was using the information wrong.

I would assume since we are finding a minimum that I'd like to find any critical points of that function where f'(x) = 0, but I keep getting thrown because I keep finding my only critical point is at x = 0 and I'm not sure what I"m supposed to do with it (or if that's even right)

Thank you for your help!
 
  • #4
Can you show me your work in arriving to x=0? Maybe I can find where it went wrong...
 
  • #5
Here is what I have:

[tex]
f(x)=\sqrt{a^2+x^2}+\sqrt{(x-1)^2+b^2}
[/tex]

[tex]
f'(x) = x/(\sqrt{a^2+x^2}) + (x-1)/(\sqrt{(x-1)^2+b^2} = 0
[/tex]

Then I squared both sides to get rid of any square roots if need be, but from there I'm kind of stuck deciding what algebra to use. I found my mistake with x=0, so I'm still looking for others
 
  • #6
That derivative seems good. So we need to have f'(x)=0.
This is equivalent to

[tex]x/\sqrt{a^2+x^2} = (1-x)/\sqrt{(x-1)^2+b^2}[/tex]

Which is equivalent to

[tex]x\sqrt{(x-1)^2+b^2} = (1-x)\sqrt{a^2+x^2}[/tex]

Now you simply need to square and solve for x.
 
  • #7
It appears from that that I have received x = (a/b) + 1 as my final answer? Does this appear to be correct?
 

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