Deriving the vapor pressure latent heat dependence

In summary, the conversation is about finding the latent heat of vaporization in terms of absolute temperature, and integrating to find the vapor pressure at a certain temperature. The equation for finding the latent heat is incorrect and the correct equation is given. The value of alpha_v is discussed and identified as the molar volume of the vapor. The correct equation for latent heat is confirmed and the process for finding the vapor pressure at a certain temperature is discussed.
  • #1
il27

Homework Statement


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Equation 2.78 is the Clausius Clapeyron equation.

Homework Equations


Clausius Clayperon equation.
L = L'T (since there is a linear dependence on temperature)

The Attempt at a Solution


$$ \frac{de_s}{dT} = \frac{L}{T\alpha} $$
$$ pV = RT $$ $$ V= RT/p $$
$$ \frac{dp_s}{dT} = \frac{L}{(RT^2)/p} $$

i am not sure how to continue with this though.
 

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  • #2
il27 said:

Homework Statement


There is a picture attached showing the entire problem.
Equation 2.78 is the Clausius Clapeyron equation.

Homework Equations


Clausius Clayperon equation.
L = L'T (since there is a linear dependence on temperature)

The Attempt at a Solution


$$ \frac{de_s}{dT} = \frac{L}{T\alpha} $$
$$ pV = RT $$ $$ V= RT/p $$
$$ \frac{dp_s}{dT} = \frac{L}{(RT^2)/p} $$

i am not sure how to continue with this though.
Let ##L_0## be the latent heat of vaporization at 0 C and ##L_{100}## be the latent heat of vaporization at 100 C. In terms of the absolute temperature T, what is the latent heat of vaporization at absolute temperature T?
 
  • #3
Chestermiller said:
Let ##L_0## be the latent heat of vaporization at 0 C and ##L_{100}## be the latent heat of vaporization at 100 C. In terms of the absolute temperature T, what is the latent heat of vaporization at absolute temperature T?

In terms of absolute temperature, the latent heat of vaporaization would be:
$$ L = 19T + 334 $$ 334 being the latent heat of water at 0 deg C. is that right?
 
  • #4
il27 said:
In terms of absolute temperature, the latent heat of vaporaization would be:
$$ L = 19T + 334 $$ 334 being the latent heat of water at 0 deg C. is that right?
I want it algebraically in terms of ##L_0## and ##L_{100}##. And I asked for it in terms of the absolute temperature T, not the centigrade temperature.
 
  • #5
Chestermiller said:
I want it algebraically in terms of ##L_0## and ##L_{100}##. And I asked for it in terms of the absolute temperature T, not the centigrade temperature.

Would it be: $$ L = L_{100}*T + L_0 $$ ?
 
  • #6
il27 said:
Would it be: $$ L = L_{100}*T + L_0 $$ ?
Do you not know how to determine the equation for the straight line L vs T that passes through the points (273,##L_0##) and (373, ##L_{100}##)?
 
  • #7
Chestermiller said:
Do you not know how to determine the equation for the straight line L vs T that passes through the points (273,##L_0##) and (373, ##L_{100}##)?

oh sorry!
that was dumb. yes of course. the equation i get for L is $$ L = (\frac{L_{100}-L_0}{100})T $$ no y-intercept.
what would be the next step?
 
  • #8
il27 said:
oh sorry!
that was dumb. yes of course. the equation i get for L is $$ L = (\frac{L_{100}-L_0}{100})T $$ no y-intercept.

Incorrect. Try again.
 
  • #9
Chestermiller said:
Incorrect. Try again.

sorry! i think i forgot the y-intercept.
$$ L =
il27 said:
oh sorry!
that was dumb. yes of course. the equation i get for L is $$ L = (\frac{L_{100}-L_0}{100})T $$ no y-intercept.
what would be the next step?
Chestermiller said:
Incorrect. Try again.

sorry! the slope is fine right? i think i forgot the y-intercept:
$$ L = (\frac{L_{100}-L_0}{100})T + 3.73L_0 - 2.73L_{100} $$
 
  • #10
il27 said:
sorry! the slope is fine right? i think i forgot the y-intercept:
$$L = (\frac{L_{100}-L_0}{100})T + 3.73L_0 - 2.73L_{100} $$
OK. So now you have $$\frac{d\ln{p_s}}{dT}=\frac{L}{RT^2}$$
Now all you need to do is substitute for L, and integrate from T1 to T2.
 
  • #11
Chestermiller said:
OK. So now you have $$\frac{d\ln{p_s}}{dT}=\frac{L}{RT^2}$$
Now all you need to do is substitute for L, and integrate from T1 to T2.
great, thank you! I think when I did the $$ RT^2 $$, that was wrong. i will just integrate:

$$ \frac{dp_s}{dT} = \frac{de_s}{dT} = \frac{L}{T\alpha_v} $$ for the pressure. i will plug in for L. would that be okay?
 
  • #12
il27 said:
great, thank you! I think when I did the $$ RT^2 $$, that was wrong. i will just integrate:

$$ \frac{dp_s}{dT} = \frac{de_s}{dT} = \frac{L}{T\alpha_v} $$ for the pressure. i will plug in for L. would that be okay?
The version with ##RT^2## was correct, and the equation I wrote was correct.
 
  • #13
Chestermiller said:
The version with ##RT^2## was correct, and the equation I wrote was correct.

oh okay, i will use that one then! thank you.
just wondering, what is the $$ \alpha_v $$ that is a constant right?
 
  • #14
il27 said:
oh okay, i will use that one then! thank you.
just wondering, what is the $$ \alpha_v $$ that is a constant right?
No. It’s RT/ps
 
  • #15
Chestermiller said:
No. It’s RT/ps
oh okay. it's 1/density? which is RT/ps?
 
  • #16
il27 said:
oh okay. it's 1/density? which is RT/ps?
Yes, it’s the molar volume of the vapor.
 
  • #17
Chestermiller said:
Yes, it’s the molar volume of the vapor.
great thank you! and m
Chestermiller said:
Yes, it’s the molar volume of the vapor.

and i just wanted to check but my euqation for L is correct?:
$$ L = (\frac{L_{100}-L_0}{100})T + 3.73L_0 - 2.73L_{100} $$
 
  • #18
also, would I be integrating from p0 to p, p0 being 101325 pa, and T1 to T2?
because if i want to find the vaporation pressure using the new equation with the temperature of 20 deg. C, what would be my T1 and T2?
 
  • #19
like if i wanted to:
Use the expression derived in part (a) to recalculate the saturation vapor pressure at 20 °C.
 

FAQ: Deriving the vapor pressure latent heat dependence

What is the "vapor pressure latent heat dependence"?

The vapor pressure latent heat dependence refers to the relationship between the vapor pressure of a substance and its latent heat of vaporization. This relationship describes how much energy is required to convert a liquid into a gas at a given temperature.

Why is the vapor pressure latent heat dependence important to study?

Understanding the vapor pressure latent heat dependence is crucial in many scientific and industrial applications, such as in the design of refrigeration systems, the production of pharmaceuticals, and the study of atmospheric processes.

How is the vapor pressure latent heat dependence derived?

The vapor pressure latent heat dependence is derived using thermodynamic principles and equations, specifically the Clausius-Clapeyron equation. This equation relates the vapor pressure of a substance to its temperature and latent heat of vaporization.

What factors affect the vapor pressure latent heat dependence?

The vapor pressure latent heat dependence is influenced by several factors, including the type of substance, temperature, pressure, and intermolecular forces. Changes in these factors can alter the relationship between vapor pressure and latent heat.

Can the vapor pressure latent heat dependence be measured experimentally?

Yes, the vapor pressure latent heat dependence can be measured experimentally using techniques such as isothermal distillation, vapor pressure osmometry, or differential scanning calorimetry. These methods allow for the determination of both the vapor pressure and latent heat of a substance at different temperatures.

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