Detecting Dynamic Torque Across a Geared System

In summary: Check also with Lebow. It's their specialty. I have used them many times. In summary, if there is any gearing (other than 1:1) between the input and output shafts, or if the input and output shafts are not on the same axis, then you will also be able to sense the direction (and magnitude) of the transmitted torque by means of gauges on the non rotating elements (typically the gearbox mountings). However, if there is 1:1 gearing or the input and output shafts are on the same axis, then the torque can be detected without the use of gauges.
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Kenneth Mann
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I'd like to know if anyone here knows of anything that can sense the torque dynamically across a geared system (such as a transmission); basically, whether it is in a "positive" direction, a "negative" direction or zero. (The magnitude is not important, though it would be useful to know when it is approaching zero.) Most torque gauges and meters are static devices, but I'd like to know of one that works in a situation where the system is running.

KM
 
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A torque sensor then?

2 seconds of google gives some Honeywell gauges at:
http://www.sensotec.com/torque.asp

They're just normal strain gauges but adapted for rotary use.

Any help?
 
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In a word, yes! Thanks

KM
 
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If there is any gearing (other than 1:1) between the input and output shafts, or if the input and output shafts are not on the same axis, then you will also be able to sense the direction (and magnitude) of the transmitted torque by means of gauges on the non rotating elements (typically the gearbox mountings).
 
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FredGarvin said:
Check also with Lebow. It's their specialty. I have used them many times.

Again, thanks!


ceptimus said:
If there is any gearing (other than 1:1) between the input and output shafts, or if the input and output shafts are not on the same axis, then you will also be able to sense the direction (and magnitude) of the transmitted torque by means of gauges on the non rotating elements (typically the gearbox mountings).

Very interesting! I guess, in a way, that should have been somewhat apparent. After all, we can feel the the zeroing out of the torque across an automobile (manual) transmission through the gearshift lever (It becomes loose and movable). I assume therefore, that simply by adapting a strain gauge platform to go, for example. between a transmission and whatever follows, I'd get an indication of the magnitude and direction of the torque?

I'm not sure though - - Why would a direct through, 1:1 case be a limiting condition? As I recall, the zeroing of the torque can also be detected in "top" gear, which is direct and 1:1. (I haven't actually driven a manual for quite a while.)

Also, can I assume that the best mounting would be that which would best indicate an in-line torsion between the two housings?

And again, thanks!

KM
 

FAQ: Detecting Dynamic Torque Across a Geared System

What is dynamic torque and why is it important to detect in a geared system?

Dynamic torque is the measure of rotational force or energy that is produced by a machine or system. In a geared system, it is important to detect dynamic torque in order to monitor the performance and efficiency of the system, as well as to identify any potential issues or malfunctions that may arise.

How is dynamic torque measured in a geared system?

Dynamic torque can be measured using a torque sensor, which is typically placed between the motor and the gearbox in a geared system. The sensor detects the amount of torque being applied and converts it into an electrical signal that can be analyzed and recorded.

What factors can affect the accuracy of dynamic torque measurements in a geared system?

Several factors can affect the accuracy of dynamic torque measurements in a geared system, including the quality and calibration of the torque sensor, the condition and alignment of the gears, the lubrication of the system, and any external forces or vibrations that may impact the measurements.

How can detecting dynamic torque help improve the performance of a geared system?

By accurately detecting dynamic torque, engineers and technicians can identify any inefficiencies or malfunctions in the geared system and make necessary adjustments to improve its performance. This can lead to increased productivity, reduced downtime, and cost savings in the long run.

Are there any safety concerns associated with detecting dynamic torque in a geared system?

Yes, there are potential safety concerns to consider when detecting dynamic torque in a geared system. It is important to follow proper safety protocols and use appropriate equipment when measuring torque, as the system may be under high levels of force and could cause injury if not handled properly.

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