Determining the location of a signal using only 2 receivers

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In summary, the conversation discusses the possibility of using two primitive, non-directional receivers to locate the source of a signal. The method involves using an accurate timebase to calculate the time difference it takes for the signal to reach the receivers and then using multiple measurements to determine the location of the source. However, there are limitations such as directional resolution and the need for clear line of sight. Additionally, nothing is known about the signal beforehand and the problem may be better understood in a three-dimensional context.
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I'm currently writing a book. In the book the main characters need to find the source of a signal but they can only use two primitive, non-directional receivers.
I think it is possible to calculate the location providing they have access to a very accurate timebase which will tell them the time difference it takes the signal to reach the receivers. Each measurement would give them a plane in which the source should lie. After each measurement they move to a different location (at a considerable distance of the previous location). After two measurements they would have an line on which the source should be, the intersection between the two planes. Three measurements would give them the location of the source, the intersection between the line and the third plane. (assuming none of the planes are the same or parallel)
Am i correct? And if so, how should the calculations be done.
If not, is there an other way to do it with just time difference as data, f.e. using more receivers.
 
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Since signals travel radially, you should be looking a circles. If you have perfect time difference data and clear line of sight, your 'planes' are spherical shells, and instead of lines, you should have the intersections of spherical shells.
If you now something a priori about the signal, like it is stationary and on the ground, you will have the possible source locations reduced to 2 points with two measurements.
A third measurement, as long as it is not collinear with the first two should be the tiebreaker.
 
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Um... What is your definition of "primitive" in "primitive non-directional receiver?"

Suppose your two receivers are 1 km apart. And suppose the source is on a line fairly close to the line between the two receivers. The signal arrives at the two detectors just 3 microseconds apart. If your timing is good to only +/-1 microsecond, then you have a directional resolution of round about 30 degrees.

Also, as RUber referred to, you have a left-right issue. If the delay is (2 +/- 1) microseconds, you can't distinguish anything from 45 degrees to the left to 45 degrees to the right.

If your detectors were 10 km apart with the same electronics, then you could distinguish a smaller angle. Does your story allow for the antenna to be that far apart and have wires leading to a central receiver?

It seems kind of far-fetched though. You can make a simple di-pole antenna that will be directional to better than that kind of accuracy out of a hoop. Supposing the signal is only pulses that don't give you time to rotate a hoop to find the max and min. Then you want three or four hoops arranged at different angles.
 
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Thank you for the reply, RUber and DEvens.
First of all, nothing is known about the signal a priori, except that it propagates with the speed of light and it's not blocked by matter what so ever.
Secondly, i realize I've been looking at it in a two dimensional way applied on a three dimensional reality.
Third, I've used some wrong words to describe the problem. I tried to write down an analogy so i didn't have to disclose too much about the story. My apologies.
 
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FAQ: Determining the location of a signal using only 2 receivers

How does determining the location of a signal using only 2 receivers work?

The process of determining the location of a signal using only 2 receivers is known as triangulation. It involves using the distance between the receivers and the signal source to calculate the location of the signal.

What is the accuracy of determining the location of a signal using only 2 receivers?

The accuracy of this method depends on the distance between the receivers and the signal source. Generally, the closer the receivers are to each other and the signal source, the more accurate the location determination will be.

Are there any limitations to using only 2 receivers for determining a signal's location?

Yes, there are limitations to using only 2 receivers. This method is most accurate when the signal source is located in between the 2 receivers, and it becomes less accurate when the signal source is located to the side or behind the receivers.

Can this method be used for any type of signal?

Yes, this method can be used for any type of signal as long as it can be received by the 2 receivers and the distance between the receivers and the signal source can be measured.

How does the location of the receivers affect the accuracy of this method?

The location of the receivers is crucial for the accuracy of this method. If the receivers are too far apart, the accuracy decreases, and if they are too close together, the accuracy can also be affected. The ideal location for the receivers is in a straight line with the signal source.

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