Did I set up my integral correctly?

In summary, to find the volume of the solid in the first octant bounded by the plane x+2y+3z=6 and the cylinder x^2+y^2=4, we can use a triple integral with lower bounds of 0 and upper bounds of 2 for x, 0 and the square root of 4-x^2 for y, and 0 and 2-(1/3)x-(2/3)y for z. The lower bound for z should be 0, not x^2+y^2-4, as this would result in a different solid.
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Homework Statement


use triple integral to find volume of the solid in the first octant that is bounded above by[tex] x+2y+3z=6[/tex] and laterally by the clyinder [tex]x^2+y^2=4[/tex]

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


From the given plane I got:
[tex]Z=2-\frac{1} {3}x-\frac{2} {3}y[/tex]
from the given Cylinder i got:
[tex]y=\sqrt{4-x^2}[/tex]

since its only interested in the first octant, lower bounds should all be zero.

so I get [tex]\int_{x=0}^2\int_{y=0}^\sqrt{4-x^2} \int_{z=0}^{2-\frac{1} {3}x-\frac{2} {3}y} \,dz \, dy \, dx[/tex]

my concern is with Z's lower bound, I think it should be 0 as well, but if using [tex]z=x^2+y^2-4[/tex] seems like also okay, but being this way, this cylinder became a different solid, it became an infinite paraboloid. so that means I can't just set [tex]z=x^2+y^2-4[/tex] ? because the Z value of an infinite cylinder does not depend on x or y?
 
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qq545282501 said:

Homework Statement


use triple integral to find volume of the solid in the first octant that is bounded above by[tex] x+2y+3z=6[/tex] and laterally by the clyinder [tex]x^2+y^2=4[/tex]

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


From the given plane I got:
[tex]Z=2-\frac{1} {3}x-\frac{2} {3}y[/tex]
from the given Cylinder i got:
[tex]y=\sqrt{4-x^2}[/tex]

since its only interested in the first octant, lower bounds should all be zero.

so I get [tex]\int_{x=0}^2\int_{y=0}^\sqrt{4-x^2} \int_{z=0}^{2-\frac{1} {3}x-\frac{2} {3}y} \,dz \, dy \, dx[/tex]
Looks fine to me.
qq545282501 said:
my concern is with Z's lower bound, I think it should be 0 as well
Yes. You're in the first octant, where ##x \ge 0, y \ge 0##, and ##z \ge 0##.
qq545282501 said:
, but if using [tex]z=x^2+y^2-4[/tex] seems like also okay
No, it's not. The equation of the cylinder is ##x^2 + y^2 = 4##. z is completely arbitrary, so you can't just stick it in the equation.
qq545282501 said:
, but being this way, this cylinder became a different solid, it became an infinite paraboloid. so that means I can't just set [tex]z=x^2+y^2-4[/tex] ? because the Z value of an infinite cylinder does not depend on x or y?
 
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qq545282501 said:

Homework Statement


use triple integral to find volume of the solid in the first octant that is bounded above by[tex] x+2y+3z=6[/tex] and laterally by the clyinder [tex]x^2+y^2=4[/tex]

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


From the given plane I got:
[tex]Z=2-\frac{1} {3}x-\frac{2} {3}y[/tex]
from the given Cylinder i got:
[tex]y=\sqrt{4-x^2}[/tex]

since its only interested in the first octant, lower bounds should all be zero.

so I get [tex]\int_{x=0}^2\int_{y=0}^\sqrt{4-x^2} \int_{z=0}^{2-\frac{1} {3}x-\frac{2} {3}y} \,dz \, dy \, dx[/tex]

my concern is with Z's lower bound, I think it should be 0 as well, but if using [tex]z=x^2+y^2-4[/tex] seems like also okay, but being this way, this cylinder became a different solid, it became an infinite paraboloid. so that means I can't just set [tex]z=x^2+y^2-4[/tex] ? because the Z value of an infinite cylinder does not depend on x or y?

The "equation" ##z = x^2+y^2-4## has no connection to the problem, because the lowest point on the plane and the curve ##x^2+y^2=4## has positive ##z##. Therefore, the lowest value of ##z## is ##z = 0## and the top face of the cylinder does not come down that far. In short, you setup is correct.

BTW: thanks for using a typed version, which in this case is do-able because no diagrams are needed.
 
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got it. thank you all.
 

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1. What is an integral and why is it important?

An integral is a mathematical concept that represents the area under a curve in a graph. It is important because it allows us to calculate the total value of a function over a given interval, which has many practical applications in fields such as physics, engineering, and economics.

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