Dielectric constant for a plastic kitchen bag?

In summary, the conversation discusses the use of plastic kitchen bags from Market Basket/DeMoulas as a dielectric for home-made capacitors. The thickness of the bags (19 micrometers) is mentioned as a potential advantage for accuracy. However, the issue of finding the dielectric constant arises, with the question of whether approximating with polyethylene or using paper and measuring the thickness manually would be more effective. The conversation also mentions the possibility of margin of error in the thickness of the bags due to their manufacturing process. Ultimately, the decision is made to use paper instead.
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AngelofMusic
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Hello!

I'm making some home-made capacitors for an up-coming lab, and I was thinking of using Market Basket/DeMoulas' plastic kitchen bags as a dielectric. I'm really hoping to use it because the packaging info includes the thickness of the bag (19 micrometers), which should increase the accuracy of my results.

However, I'm at a loss to how to find its dielectric constant. The packaging info says:

"These bags are made in layers of specially formulated plastic with added strength and stretch for puncture and tear resistance."

I've seen websites that approximate garbage bags' dielectric constants using polyethylene. Would that be appropriate in this case?

Is it worth having an approximated dielectric constant in return for a more accurate depth measurement? Or am I better off using something like paper, and measuring the thickness myself? (I don't have any good equipment for that. I'll have to stack the papers, measure that and divide.)
 
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This is just conjecture on my part, but I imagine there is just as much margin of error in the nominal thickness of those bags as there would be in your measurement. Maybe even more. I saw plastic bags being manufactured once. They basically squirted a stream of molten plastic upward & used a vertical column of forced air to hold it in a cylindrical shape & keep it moving upward until it dried near the ceiling. I don't think you can count on the thickness being perfectly uniform. Paper, I think, is rolled out under pressure, so I would expect its thickness to be more consistent.
 
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All right. Thanks for the info!
 

FAQ: Dielectric constant for a plastic kitchen bag?

What is the dielectric constant of a plastic kitchen bag?

The dielectric constant of a plastic kitchen bag can vary depending on the type of plastic used. However, on average, the dielectric constant ranges from 2.5 to 3.5.

How is the dielectric constant of a plastic kitchen bag measured?

The dielectric constant is typically measured using a device called a capacitance meter, which measures the capacitance of the material. The dielectric constant is then calculated using the measured capacitance and the dimensions of the plastic bag.

Does the thickness of the plastic bag affect its dielectric constant?

Yes, the thickness of the plastic bag can affect its dielectric constant. Thicker plastic bags tend to have a higher dielectric constant due to the increased amount of material between the two electrodes.

Why is the dielectric constant of a plastic kitchen bag important?

The dielectric constant is an important factor in determining the insulating properties of a material. In the case of a plastic kitchen bag, a high dielectric constant means it can effectively insulate against electricity, making it safe to use for storing and transporting electrical devices.

Can the dielectric constant of a plastic kitchen bag change over time?

Yes, the dielectric constant of a plastic kitchen bag can change over time due to factors such as exposure to heat, moisture, and chemicals. This can cause the plastic to degrade and alter its dielectric properties.

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