Different values with rotational kinematic equations

In summary, the conversation discusses a problem with using the third and fourth kinematic equations to calculate the final angular speed of a bicycle wheel. The problem involves finding the angular acceleration, final angular velocity, tangential velocity, and tangential acceleration of a point on the wheel's rim after one revolution. The conversation also includes a discussion about using different equations to find the final angular velocity, with one solution using the equation \omega_{f}^{2} = \omega_{i}^2 + 2 \alpha \Delta \theta. The conversation concludes with a clarification about the time it takes for the wheel to make one revolution.
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JinM
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[SOLVED] Different values with rotational kinematic equations

Hello everyone,
I got two different values for final angular speed when I tried to use the third and fourth kinematic equations. I filled the template here with the problem with my attempts.

Homework Statement


A bicycle wheel of radius r = 1.5 m starts from rest and rolls 100 m without slipping in 30 s. Assuming that the angular acceleration of the wheel given above was constant, calculate: a) The angular acceleration, b) the final angular velocity c) the tangential velocity and tangential acceleration of a point on the rim after one revolution.

Given

[tex]\Delta\theta = 100/1.5 = 66.7[/tex] rad

[tex]\omega_{i} = 0 [/tex]

[tex]\Delta t = 30 s[/tex]

[tex]\alpha[/tex] is constant

Unknowns

[tex] \alpha = ? [/tex]

[tex] \omega = ? [/tex]

[tex] v_{t} = ? [/tex] and [tex] a_{t} = ? [/tex] when [tex] \Delta\theta = 2\pi[/tex]

Homework Equations



[tex]\Delta\theta = \frac{1}{2} (\omega_{f} + \omega_{i}) \Delta t[/tex]

[tex] \omega_{f}^{2} = \omega_{i}^2 + 2 \alpha \Delta \theta [/tex]

[tex] \omega_{f} = \omega_{i} + \alpha \Delta t [/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



Part b:

[tex]\Delta\theta = \frac{1}{2} (\omega_{f} + \omega_{i}) \Delta t[/tex]

[tex] 66.7 = \frac{1}{2}(0 + \omega_{f})(30) [/tex]

[tex] \omega_{f} = 4.45 [/tex] rad/s

Part a:

[tex] \omega_{f} = \omega_{i} + \alpha \Delta t [/tex]

[tex] 4.45 = 0 + 30\alpha [/tex]

[tex] \alpha = 0.15[/tex] rad/s^2

Part c:

My strategy is to find the final angular velocity [tex]\omega_f[/tex] using the first relevant equation. Then finding the tangential velocity by multiplying [tex]\omega_f[/tex] with the radius.

[tex]\Delta\theta = \frac{1}{2} (\omega_{f} + \omega_{i}) \Delta t[/tex]

[tex] 2\pi = \frac{1}{2} (\omega_{f} + 0)(30) [/tex]

[tex] \omega_{f} = \frac{2\pi}{15} = 0.419 [/tex]

And then:

[tex] v_{t} = r\omega = (1.5)(0.419) = 0.6285 [/tex] m/s

[tex] a_{t} = r\alpha = (1.5)(0.15) = 0.255 [/tex] m/s^2However, the solution key has a different answer. [tex]\omega_{f}[/tex] after one revolution equals 1.37 rad/s and [tex]v_{t}[/tex] = 2.06. Apparently, they used this equation:

[tex] \omega_{f}^{2} = \omega_{i}^2 + 2 \alpha \Delta \theta [/tex]I'm a little confused. I double checked my calculations, and I am almost sure that I haven't made a calculation error. I appreciate it if someone could help me with this.

Thanks,
Jin
 
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JinM;1573793- 2[tex said:
\pi[/tex] = 1/2 * (0 + [tex]\omega[/tex]f) * 30

Your mistake is assuming that the time here is 30 seconds. It takes quite a bit less than 30 seconds for the wheel to make one revolution.
 
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OH! I get it now. Thanks a lot, D H
 

FAQ: Different values with rotational kinematic equations

What are rotational kinematic equations?

Rotational kinematic equations are mathematical formulas used to describe the motion of objects that are rotating around a fixed axis. They are similar to linear kinematic equations, but take into account the angular velocity and acceleration of the rotating object.

How do rotational kinematic equations differ from linear kinematic equations?

Rotational kinematic equations take into account the angular motion of objects, while linear kinematic equations only describe the motion of objects in a straight line. Rotational kinematic equations also use different variables, such as angular displacement and angular velocity, compared to linear kinematic equations.

What are the key variables in rotational kinematic equations?

The key variables in rotational kinematic equations include angular displacement, angular velocity, angular acceleration, and time. These variables describe the rotation of an object around a fixed axis and can be used to calculate other quantities, such as angular momentum and torque.

How are rotational kinematic equations used in real-world applications?

Rotational kinematic equations are used in many real-world applications, such as the design of machinery and vehicles that involve rotating parts. They are also used in physics and engineering to study the motion of objects, such as planets and satellites, that rotate around a fixed axis.

What are some common misconceptions about rotational kinematic equations?

One common misconception is that rotational kinematic equations can only be applied to circular motion. In reality, they can be used for any type of rotational motion, including elliptical and rotational motion about a non-fixed axis. Another misconception is that rotational kinematic equations are only applicable to rigid bodies, when in fact they can also be applied to non-rigid bodies with some modifications.

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