Differential equation help

In summary, the conversation discusses a differential equation with boundary conditions and how the general solution can be expressed as a sine function. The specific topic is how the general solution is equivalent to a given solution when a certain value is substituted into it.
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theone
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I understand what is in the picture http://postimg.org/image/u5ib33kzb/
but the book goes on to say that the solution is thus of the form
## X_n = a_n sin \frac{n \pi x}{l} ##
How does putting ##β=σ^2=\frac{n^2π^2}{l^2}## into (6.37) result in that?
 
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I apologize in advance if I am off base on this, I cannot access your link.

I will assume that you have a differential equation that looks like:
##x'' +\beta x = 0 ##
with boundary conditions:
##x(0)=x(l) = 0##
The general solution for the differential equation is
##x = A \sin( \sqrt{\beta} t ) + B \cos(\sqrt{\beta} t) ##
And the boundary condition at ##t=0## forces B to go to zero and the boundary condition at ##t = l ## forces ##\beta ## to be the form you have above.

Please include a little more information regarding the problem if you would like more feedback.
 
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RUber said:
I apologize in advance if I am off base on this, I cannot access your link.

I will assume that you have a differential equation that looks like:
##x'' +\beta x = 0 ##
with boundary conditions:
##x(0)=x(l) = 0##
The general solution for the differential equation is
##x = A \sin( \sqrt{\beta} t ) + B \cos(\sqrt{\beta} t) ## (6.36)
And the boundary condition at ##t=0## forces B to go to zero and the boundary condition at ##t = l ## forces ##\beta ## to be the form you have above.

Please include a little more information regarding the problem if you would like more feedback.

thats right, the differential equation is (X is X(x), a function of x) :

##X'' + \beta X = 0##

Assuming a general solution of ##X(x) = A e^{ -\sqrt{-\beta}x} + B e^{+\sqrt{-\beta} x} ##, that ##\sqrt{-\beta}## is complex (ie. ##\beta =σ^2##) , and that the boundary conditions are ##X(0)=0## and ##X(l)=0##, they found that ##σ=\frac{n\pi}{l}##
What I want to know is how putting ##σ=\frac{n\pi}{l}## into the general solution results in ##X_n=a_n\sin\frac{n\pi x}{l}##
Or how their general solution is equivalent to yours?
 
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[tex]\cos x = \frac{e^{ix} + e^{-ix}}2 \\
\sin x = \frac{e^{ix} - e^{-ix}}{2i}[/tex]
 
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theone said:

thats right, the differential equation is (X is X(x), a function of x) :

##X'' + \beta X = 0##

Assuming a general solution of ##X(x) = A e^{ -\sqrt{-\beta}x} + B e^{+\sqrt{-\beta} x} ##, that ##\sqrt{-\beta}## is complex (ie. ##\beta =σ^2##) , and that the boundary conditions are ##X(0)=0## and ##X(l)=0##, they found that ##σ=\frac{n\pi}{l}##
What I want to know is how putting ##σ=\frac{n\pi}{l}## into the general solution results in ##X_n=a_n\sin\frac{n\pi x}{l}##
Or how their general solution is equivalent to yours?
Applying your first boundary condition tells you that A = -B, giving ## X(x) = A\left(e^{-i\sigma x}- e^{i\sigma x}\right)##
Noting what pasmith wrote above, this is equivalent to ## C \sin (\sigma x )##.
Then, since any sigma of the form given can be a solution, your full solution might be an infinite sum:
##X(x) =\sum_{n=1}^\infty X_n(x) = \sum_{n=1}^\infty a_n \sin(\sigma_n x ) ##
 

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