Differential Equation problem

In summary, the conversation is about solving a given differential equation using the substitution method and expressing the answer in terms of x and y. The attempt at a solution involves using the properties of logarithms and integrating, but the final answer differs from the one given in the textbook. The conversation ends with the suggestion to plug the answer back into the original equation to check its validity.
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hibernator
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Homework Statement



Substituition y=vx , differential equation x2dy/dx = y2-2x2 can be show in the form x dv/dx = (v-2)(v+1)

Hence , solve the differential equation x dv/dx = (v-2)(v+1) ,expressing answer in the form of y as a function of x in the case where y > 2x > 0 .


The Attempt at a Solution



I can only show the equation ,but can't solve the equation as the answer is y =x(2+Ax2) / (1-Ax2)

TQ.
 
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  • #2
Show us what you tried so far.
 
  • #3
vela said:
Show us what you tried so far.

I start after from my showing.
x dv/dx = (v-2)(v+1)
dv/dx = (v-2)(v+1) / x
dx/dv = x / (v-x)(v+1)
1/x dx = 1 / (v-2)(v+1) dv

Then I start to integrate , I am still new , so I don't know how to use to type the symbol.Sorry for the inconvenience.

1/x dx = 1/3 ( (1 / (v-2) )- ( 1/ (v+1) ) -----(1/3 from partial fraction )
ln x + c = 1/3 ln (v-2) - ln (v+1)
ln x + c = 1/3 ln (v-2)/(v+1)

Then I forgot know how to continue as i left my exercise book at home. I can only done so far.Then how could I continue ?
 
  • #4
hibernator said:
I start after from my showing.
x dv/dx = (v-2)(v+1)
This is wrong. If y= xv then dy/dx= x dv/dx+ v, not just x dv/dx.

-dv/dx = (v-2)(v+1) / x
dx/dv = x / (v-x)(v+1)
1/x dx = 1 / (v-2)(v+1) dv

Then I start to integrate , I am still new , so I don't know how to use to type the symbol.Sorry for the inconvenience.

1/x dx = 1/3 ( (1 / (v-2) )- ( 1/ (v+1) ) -----(1/3 from partial fraction )
ln x + c = 1/3 ln (v-2) - ln (v+1)
ln x + c = 1/3 ln (v-2)/(v+1)

Then I forgot know how to continue as i left my exercise book at home. I can only done so far.Then how could I continue ?
 
  • #5
HallsofIvy said:
This is wrong. If y= xv then dy/dx= x dv/dx+ v, not just x dv/dx.

no , I have done using dy/dx= x dv/dx+ v, from the equation x2dy/dx = y2-2x2 .
 
  • #6
Use the properties of logarithms:
[tex]\begin{align*}
\log ab &= \log a + \log b \\
b \log a &= \log a^b
\end{align*}[/tex]
and exponentiate to get rid of the logs.
 
  • #7
Applying the properties of logarithm, i get
y= x(2+Ax^3)/1-Ax^3
which is supposed to be 'Ax^2?' HmMm.
 
  • #8
median27 said:
Applying the properties of logarithm, i get
y= x(2+Ax^3)/1-Ax^3
which is supposed to be 'Ax^2?' HmMm.

Same answer as mine.I got y= x(2+Ax^3)/1-Ax^3 .But the textbook's anwser is saying that 'Ax^2.The textbook probably wrong?
 
  • #9
It's straightforward enough to check. Just plug your answer back into the original differential equation and see if it works.
 
  • #10
vela said:
It's straightforward enough to check. Just plug your answer back into the original differential equation and see if it works.

I will try , thank you so much for your help ^^
 

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