Differential Equations, Separable, Explicit Solution

So, I think it is incorrect. As for why they chose that one particular solution, I'm not entirely sure. It could be for simplicity or to match up with other solutions in the book. It's hard to say without context. But, the important thing is that you know how to solve it correctly and have verified that your solution satisfies the differential equation.
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Destroxia
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Homework Statement



Solve the differential equation, explicitly.

dy/dx = (2x)/(1+2y)

The answer given by the book is...

-1/2 + 1/2sqrt(2x - 2x^2 +4)

Homework Equations



Process for solving separable differential equations

The Attempt at a Solution



dy/dx = (2x)/(1+2y)

(1 + 2y)*dy = 2x*dx

∫(1+2y)*dy = ∫2x*dx

y + y^2 = x^2 + C

...

I seem to have solved it, implicitly, but I see no way of solving it explicitly.
 
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RyanTAsher said:

Homework Statement



Solve the differential equation, explicitly.

dy/dx = (2x)/(1+2y)

The answer given by the book is...

-1/2 + 1/2sqrt(2x - 2x^2 +4)

Homework Equations



Process for solving separable differential equations

The Attempt at a Solution



dy/dx = (2x)/(1+2y)

(1 + 2y)*dy = 2x*dx

∫(1+2y)*dy = ∫2x*dx

y + y^2 = x^2 + C

...

I seem to have solved it, implicitly, but I see no way of solving it explicitly.
Use the quadratic formula to solve for y in terms of x. Note that the quadratic formula will give you two solutions. Your book seems to have chosen one of the solutions arbitrarily.
 
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Mark44 said:
Use the quadratic formula to solve for y in terms of x. Note that the quadratic formula will give you two solutions. Your book seems to have chosen one of the solutions arbitrarily.

Ughhh, I thought about that, I just never applied it... Thank you so much for your help!

P.S. Should I use the C(constant) as the C in the quadratic formula? or just leave it on the other side with the x?
 
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Is there an initial condition in your problem that you didn't include? The book's solution doesn't include the constant, which makes me suspect that they are using information not shown here.
 
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Mark44 said:
Is there an initial condition in your problem that you didn't include? The book's solution doesn't include the constant, which makes me suspect that they are using information not shown here.

Yes, I'm sorry I forgot to include the initial condition, y(2) = 0

P.S. Never mind, I figured out how to do the quadratic with this equation!
 
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Also, are you sure you wrote the problem down correctly? I don't get the same solution as you showed.
 
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Mark44 said:
Also, are you sure you wrote the problem down correctly? I don't get the same solution as you showed.

This is the solution I ended up attempting...dy/dx = (2x)/(1+2y)

(1 + 2y)*dy = 2x*dx

∫(1+2y)*dy = ∫2x*dx

y + y^2 = x^2 + C

(initial condition) 0 + 0 = 2^2 + C, C = -4

y^2 + y + (4 - x^2) = 0

y = (-1 +/- sqrt(1-4*(4-x^2)))/2(1)

y = (-1 +/- sqrt(x^2 - 15))/2

y = -(1/2) +/- (1/2)sqrt(x^2-15)The only problem I'm having is, how did they know to only use the one solution, instead of both of them, we didn't learn about intervals of validity or anything yet.
 
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You have what I got, which is different from the solution you posted. It's possible they have a typo in their answer, or even that it is just flat wrong. You can verify that your answer is correct by differentiating it to show the dy/dx = (2x)/(1 + 2y) is identically true. I checked the book's answer and it didn't satisfy the differential equation.
 

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1. What is a differential equation?

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