Differentiating compound functions

In summary, the conversation discusses a question involving the derivative of an exponential expression with a variable as the exponent. The original attempt to solve the problem is shown, but it is not the correct answer. The correct answer involves using the properties of logarithms and the derivative of exponential functions. The conversation ends with the person thanking the other for introducing this technique.
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GregA
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I have been happilly solving away a multitude of different questions until the book threw me this curve ball...10^(3x)

My first attempt was as follows: let y=u^3 and u=10^x
dy/du = 3u^2...du/d10 = x(10^(x-1))...3x(10^2x(10^(x-1)))...3x(10^(3x-1))

the answer given in the book however is (3ln10)10^3x...thing is I haven't met a question of this type (they have been of the sort..((x^3)^1/2)/ln(x-2) etc...) and so my best attempt to reach this answer so far is to say that 10^3X is equivilant to saying e^3xln10.

If y = e^u and u = 3xln10 then...
dy/du = e^u and du/dx = 3ln10 + (3x/10) giving...(3ln10+(3x/10))10^3x problem is...I have not reached the answer and I am not sure how I've gone wrong...please help!
 
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I assume that you know that the derivative of ex is just ex itself. You should also have seen (although fewer people feel a need to memorize it!) that the derivative of ax, where a is any positive number, is axln(a).

If you haven't learned that, then, whenever you have a variable as an exponent, try taking the logarithm of both sides:
If y= 103x, then ln(y)= 3x ln(10). Now differentiate both sides of that equation, remembering that the derivative of ln(x) is 1/x so the derivative of ln(y) with respect to x is
[tex]\frac{dln(y)}{dx}= \frac{1}{y}\frac{dy}{dx}[/tex]
and then solve for [itex]\frac{dy}{dx}[/itex].

"If u = 3xln10 , the derivative of u is NOT 3ln10+ 3x/10! "10" is not a variable. u is just ax where a= 3ln10."
 
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HallsofIvy said:
I assume that you know that the derivative of ex is just ex itself. You should also have seen (although fewer people feel a need to memorize it!) that the derivative of ax, where a is any positive number, is axln(a).

Thanks for your reply HallsofIvy
don't remember having seen this(am away from my textbook to use the computer...If I have encountered it though I certainly haven't answered any questions that involved it.)I shall check the book later.

The bit you wrote at the bottom makes sense

if dy/ydx = 3ln10...dy/dx = (3ln(10))10^3x :smile:

(for what it's worth I have never come across this technique and so double thanks.)
 
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FAQ: Differentiating compound functions

1. What is a compound function?

A compound function is a function that is made up of two or more other functions. This means that the output of one function becomes the input of another function, creating a chain of operations.

2. How do you differentiate a compound function?

To differentiate a compound function, you can use the chain rule. This involves taking the derivative of the outer function and multiplying it by the derivative of the inner function.

3. What is the purpose of differentiating compound functions?

Differentiating compound functions allows us to find the rate of change of the overall function. This can be useful in various applications, such as optimization and modeling real-world phenomena.

4. Can you give an example of differentiating a compound function?

Sure, let's say we have the function f(x) = (x^2 + 3x)^4. We can rewrite this as f(x) = (g(x))^4, where g(x) = x^2 + 3x. Using the chain rule, we can find the derivative of f(x) as follows: f'(x) = 4(g(x))^3 * g'(x) = 4(x^2 + 3x)^3 * (2x + 3).

5. Are there any special cases or exceptions when differentiating compound functions?

Yes, there are some special cases that require different techniques for differentiation. For example, if the function is a product or quotient of two functions, you would use the product or quotient rule instead of the chain rule. Additionally, if the function is composed of multiple nested functions, you may need to use the chain rule multiple times. It's important to carefully analyze the structure of the compound function before differentiating it.

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