Differentiating lnsecx: -pi/2 <= x <= 0

In summary, the question asks to show that dy/dx = tan x for the given function y = lnsecx and range -pi/2 <= x <= 0. Using the substitution u = secx and the chain rule, it can be shown that dy/dx = tan x. Attempts at using the product rule were not successful due to the function being ln(secx) rather than lnxsecx.
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thomas49th
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Homework Statement


Given that y = lnsecx, - pi/2 <=x<=0, use the substituation u = secx, or otherwise, to show that dy/dx = tan x.

The Attempt at a Solution



well i thought about using the product rule, but you as it's ln(secx) not lnxsecx (2 different functions)... soooo I am all out of ideas :(

Thanks :)
 
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You could probably use chain rule...as in:

<< complete solution deleted by berkeman >>

Don't quote me on this, I'm still learning basic calculus.=D
 
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DMac said:
You could probably use chain rule...

DMac,

FYI, it's preferable to just give hints, like the part I quoted above, rather than give complete solutions as you did.

Regards,

Mark
 
  • #4
Hi thomas49th! :smile:

The question says:
thomas49th said:
… use the substituation u = secx …

So try it … u = secx, so du = … ?, and y = … ? :smile:
 
  • #5
chain rule:

dy/dx = dy/du . du/dx

dy/du of lnsecx = 1/secx

du/dx = secxtanx

1/secx . secxtanx = tanx

Cheers :)
 
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Whoops sry guys, I'm still relatively new to the forum. My apologies.
 
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DMac said:
Whoops sry guys, I'm still relatively new to the forum. My apologies.

urrh …I was asleep! :zzz:

Listen for the snoring next time!
 

FAQ: Differentiating lnsecx: -pi/2 <= x <= 0

What is the formula for differentiating ln(secx)?

The formula for differentiating ln(secx) is d/dx[ln(secx)] = secx*tanx.

How do you differentiate ln(secx) when x is between -pi/2 and 0?

When x is between -pi/2 and 0, the formula for differentiating ln(secx) is d/dx[ln(secx)] = secx*tanx. However, you must also use the chain rule to account for the inner function, which is secx. Therefore, the final answer is d/dx[ln(secx)] = secx*tanx*secx = sec^2x*tanx.

Can you provide an example of differentiating ln(secx) with a specific value for x?

Yes, for example, if x = -pi/4, the formula for differentiating ln(secx) becomes d/dx[ln(secx)] = sec(-pi/4)*tan(-pi/4) = -sqrt(2)*(-1) = sqrt(2).

How do you evaluate the derivative of ln(secx) at a specific value of x?

To evaluate the derivative of ln(secx) at a specific value of x, simply plug in the value of x into the derivative formula. For example, if x = -pi/3, the derivative would be d/dx[ln(sec(-pi/3))] = sec(-pi/3)*tan(-pi/3) = -2*sqrt(3).

Can you explain the significance of the given range for x (-pi/2 <= x <= 0) in differentiating ln(secx)?

The given range of -pi/2 <= x <= 0 is important because it ensures that the function ln(secx) is well-defined and differentiable. This is because the range excludes any values of x that would make the secant function undefined, such as x = 0 or x = pi/2, which would result in a division by zero. Therefore, this range allows us to differentiate ln(secx) without encountering any undefined values.

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