Differentiation, change of variable

In summary, the conversation discusses the steps needed to prove the identity \frac{d^2U}{dx^2} + \frac{d^2U}{dy^2} = \frac{d^2U}{d\rho^2} + \frac{1}{\rho}\frac{dU}{d\rho} + \frac{1}{\rho^2}\frac{d^2U}{d\phi^2} using the chain rule and the relationship between polar and Cartesian coordinates. The initial question asks for clarification on how to approach the problem and the conversation provides step-by-step guidance on using the chain rule and computing partial derivatives.
  • #1
thenewbosco
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The question:

if [tex]x=\rho cos \phi[/tex] and [tex]y=\rho sin\phi[/tex]

prove that if U is a twice differentiable function of x and y that

[tex] \frac{d^2U}{dx^2} + \frac{d^2U}{dy^2} = \frac{d^2U}{d\rho^2} + \frac{1}{\rho}\frac{dU}{d\rho} + \frac{1}{\rho^2}\frac{d^2U}{d\phi^2}[/tex]

i am not sure how to approach this since the function is not given. Is there some assumption i am supposed to make about the function? like f(x,y) = xy or something?
any help on the first couple steps would be appreciated
 
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  • #2
With a rather more transparent notation, let u be a function of the polar coordinates, U the function in Cartesian coordinates, related by:
[tex]u(\rho(x,y),\theta(x,y))=U(x,y)[/tex]

With this notation, you would have lower case u's on your right-hand side of the identity.

You need to compute the partial derivatives of the radial&angular variables with respect to x and y.
 
  • #3
thenewbosco said:
i am not sure how to approach this since the function is not given. Is there some assumption i am supposed to make about the function?

Have you tried the chain rule?
 
  • #4
so [tex] \rho (x,y)= ((\frac{x}{cos \phi})^2 + (\frac{y}{cos \phi})^2)^\frac{1}{2}[/tex]?

and [tex] \phi(x,y)=arctan(y/x)[/tex] is this correct?
 
  • #5
to what would i apply the chain rule?
 
  • #6
No, [tex]\rho(x,y)=\sqrt{x^{2}+y^{2}}[/tex]

That ought to be obvious for anyone claiming to have understood Pythagoras' second most important theorem.
 
  • #7
so after i compute these derivatives of the radial and angular components with respect to x and y i will have everything and just have to put it all together so it looks like the identity i am trying to show?
 
  • #8
No, you must also use the chain rule on u.
To give you a start on that:
[tex]\frac{\partial{U}}{\partial{x}}=\frac{\partial{u}}{\partial{r}}\frac{\partial{r}}{\partial{x}}+\frac{\partial{u}}{\partial{\theta}}\frac{\partial{\theta}}{\partial{x}}[/tex]
and so on..
 
  • #9
where your r is actually a rho i assume then? if so thanks for the help i should be able to solve this one
 
  • #10
Yes, r is rho.
 

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