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Hobold
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Though this problem came to me when studying thermodynamics, it's purely mathematical and seems to be easy, but I'm not getting anywhere.
Suppose I have a function H = H(x,y). Differentiating this function I get:
[tex]dH = \left (\frac{\partial H}{\partial x} \right )_y dx + \left (\frac{\partial H}{\partial y} \right )_x dy
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in which the subscript means that x or y is taken constant during the operation.
It is also given that [tex] \left (\frac{\partial H}{\partial y} \right )_x = \left (\frac{\partial F}{\partial x} \right )_y [/tex]
so
[tex] dH = \left (\frac{\partial H}{\partial x} \right )_y dx + \left (\frac{\partial F}{\partial x} \right )_y dy [/tex]
When I integrate from (x0,y0) to (x1,y1) I get
[tex]\int_{ (x_0,y_0)}^{ (x_1,y_1)} dH = \int_{x_0}^{x_1} dH |_{y_0} + \int_{y_0}^{y_1} dH |_{x_1} = \int_{x_0}^{x_1} \left (\frac{\partial H}{\partial x} \right )_y dx |_{y_0} + \int_{y_0}^{y_1} \left (\frac{\partial F}{\partial x} \right )_y dy |_{x_1} [/tex]
What is killing me is if the integral
[tex] \int_{y_0}^{y_1} \left (\frac{\partial F}{\partial x} \right )_y dy |_{x_1}[/tex]
is null, because in the derivative, you take y constant, but when integrating, x is constant. Therefore, as F = F(x,y) and both variables are taken constant, any partial derivative must be zero, so the integral is also zero. Is that right?
Suppose I have a function H = H(x,y). Differentiating this function I get:
[tex]dH = \left (\frac{\partial H}{\partial x} \right )_y dx + \left (\frac{\partial H}{\partial y} \right )_x dy
[/tex]
in which the subscript means that x or y is taken constant during the operation.
It is also given that [tex] \left (\frac{\partial H}{\partial y} \right )_x = \left (\frac{\partial F}{\partial x} \right )_y [/tex]
so
[tex] dH = \left (\frac{\partial H}{\partial x} \right )_y dx + \left (\frac{\partial F}{\partial x} \right )_y dy [/tex]
When I integrate from (x0,y0) to (x1,y1) I get
[tex]\int_{ (x_0,y_0)}^{ (x_1,y_1)} dH = \int_{x_0}^{x_1} dH |_{y_0} + \int_{y_0}^{y_1} dH |_{x_1} = \int_{x_0}^{x_1} \left (\frac{\partial H}{\partial x} \right )_y dx |_{y_0} + \int_{y_0}^{y_1} \left (\frac{\partial F}{\partial x} \right )_y dy |_{x_1} [/tex]
What is killing me is if the integral
[tex] \int_{y_0}^{y_1} \left (\frac{\partial F}{\partial x} \right )_y dy |_{x_1}[/tex]
is null, because in the derivative, you take y constant, but when integrating, x is constant. Therefore, as F = F(x,y) and both variables are taken constant, any partial derivative must be zero, so the integral is also zero. Is that right?