Dimension of SO(n) and its generators

In summary: Irreducibility is a property of a representation that says that the matrix product of two representations is always zero. This means that there is no way to take the product of two representations and get a new representation that is not reducible. So, for any finite-dimensional representation there is a unique reducible representation.
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The generators of ##SO(n)## are pure imaginary antisymmetric ##n \times n## matrices.

How can this fact be used to show that the dimension of ##SO(n)## is ##\frac{n(n-1)}{2}##?

I know that an antisymmetric matrix has ##\frac{n(n-1)}{2}## degrees of freedom, but I can't take this idea any further in the demonstration of the proof.

Thoughts?
 
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Consider its tangent space, the Lie Algebra ##so(n)##, or the short exact sequence ##SO(n) → SO(n-1) → S^{n-1}## and prove it by induction.
 
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Well, I know that the Lie algebra ##so(n)## is the space of antisymmetric matrices, so that the basis vectors of the algebra are given by the ##\frac{n(n-1)}{2}## degrees of freedom of an ##n \times n## antisymmetric matrix. Therefore, the space ##so(n)## of the antisymmetric matrices is spanned by ##\frac{n(n-1)}{2}## generators. Therefore, the dimension of ##so(n)## is ##\frac{n(n-1)}{2}##. Therefore, the dimension of ##SO(n)## is also ##\frac{n(n-1)}{2}##.

But then, we considered the defining representation of the ##so(n)## algebra, i.e., the representation in terms of ##n \times n## matrices. Does that mean that if we consider representations of other dimensions, they are not necessarily all antisymmetric and hence do not lead to the required number of degrees of freedom?
 
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failexam said:
Does that mean that if we consider representations of other dimensions, they are not necessarily all antisymmetric and hence do not lead to the required number of degrees of freedom?

No. Since orthogonality means the transposed matrix is as well the inverse matrix, transposing respects group homomorphisms and therefore any representation of the special orthogonal group is orthogonal of determinate 1 again. One can trivially build

##SO(n) → GL(n) → GL(n+1) → ...##

but that won't change dimensions. Moreover the dimension of ##SO(n)## is defined by the dimension of its underlying manifold which isn't affected by any representations of ##SO(n)##.
 
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So, what you are saying is that representations of any dimension are possible for ##SO(n)## and that they are all not necessarily antisymmetric.

But, since the number of dimensions of ##SO(n)## is a property of the underlying manifold of ##SO(n)##, the number of dimensions of ##SO(n)## remains is the same for all representations.

Is that it?
 
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Yes and ("... and that they are all not necessarily antisymmetric.") NO!

For any representation φ you can always build a representation

$$\begin{pmatrix}
1 & 0 & ... & 0\\
0 & 1 & ... & 0\\
...& ...& ... & ...\\
0 & 0 & 0 & φ
\end{pmatrix}$$

However you should look up your definition of representation. Strictly speaking its an analytic group homomorphism ##φ : SO(n) → GL(V)##. But sometimes it's required to be in ##GL(V)_ℝ## the real Lie group underlying the complex Lie group ##GL(V)##.

Nevertheless if you read my post again, I've proved that still ##φ(X) φ(X)^τ = 1## holds!
 
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When I asked if representations of any dimension are possible and if they are not necessarily antisymmetric, I was referring to finite-dimensional irreducible representations actually!
 
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failexam said:
When I asked if representations of any dimension are possible and if they are not necessarily antisymmetric, I was referring to finite-dimensional irreducible representations actually!
What has irreducibility to do with it?

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spin_representation)
 
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FAQ: Dimension of SO(n) and its generators

What is the dimension of SO(n)?

The dimension of SO(n) is n(n-1)/2.

What are the generators of SO(n)?

The generators of SO(n) are the elements of the Lie algebra, which is the space of all skew-symmetric n x n matrices.

How do the generators of SO(n) relate to rotations?

The generators of SO(n) correspond to infinitesimal rotations in n-dimensional space. Each generator corresponds to a specific axis of rotation.

Is SO(n) a compact or non-compact group?

SO(n) is a compact group, meaning that it is a closed and bounded set in n-dimensional Euclidean space.

How does the dimension of SO(n) relate to its Lie algebra?

The dimension of the Lie algebra of SO(n) is equal to the dimension of SO(n), as they are both n(n-1)/2.

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