Dimensionless equation schrodinger with field magnetic

In summary, the individual is seeking help in transforming the dimensional Schrodinger equation, \frac{-i\hbar^2}{2m}(\nabla-A)^2\psi=E\psi, for an electron in a square potential with a magnetic field into dimensionless form for computational purposes. They have substituted the charge e and mass m with 1 unit, but are unsure of how to handle the remaining parameters, c and \hbar. They are advised to look into using natural units, particularly the Hartree system, and the fine structure constant is mentioned as a dimensionless quantity independent of unit choices.
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pirulito.king
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I can not transform the dimensional Schrodinger equation in dimensionless, please help!

[tex]

-\frac{i\hbar^2}{2m}(\nabla-\frac{ieA}{c})^2\psi=E\psi
[/tex]
[tex]
A=(x\^y-y\^x)\frac{H_{0}}{2}
[/tex]

I'm trying to leave it like that:
[tex]
(\nabla-A)^2\psi=E\psi
[/tex]
I do not know if I'm posting this in the right place, sorry for mistakes in grammar

thank's
 
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Okay..let us try...

The particle you are considering has a charge e...So first, we decide that we are going to measure all charges using this charge as the basic unit..in other words, e is one unit of charge..so you can substitute 1 instead of e in the equation...

Let us also decide that m, the mass of the particle, is going to be your unit of mass...then, you can happily put m=1 in the equation...What remains are c and [tex]\hbar[/tex]...

Now you can put both of them as one and...is that it?

Not quite...you see these four parameters are not completely independent in terms of dimension..For example, for an electron, you can construct what is known as the fine structure constant as

[tex]\alpha =\ \frac{e^2}{(4 \pi \varepsilon_0)\hbar c}[/tex]

This is a dimensionless quantity whose measured value is approximately 1/137. The important thing is that this value is independent of your choice of units because it is dimensionless. Whether you choose 1 kg as your unit of mass or 1 gm as the unit of mass, fine structure constant will be 1/137.

So you can put, say, e=1, [tex]\varepsilon_0[/tex]=1 and c=1 but then [tex]\hbar[/tex] will correspond to [tex]\frac{1}{4\pi\alpha}[/tex] units...you are required to substitute this in place of [tex]\hbar[/tex] in the equation, if your particle is the electron...

If you are working with some other particle , you have to use the analogous constant...
 
  • #3
yes the particle is a electron...its caged in square potencial with magnetic field and i try transform the equation in dimensionless for the computer

but i still confuse how i can do it


thanks for already!
 
  • #4
Please look at the page "Natural Units' in wikipedia...maybe you can use the Hartree system of units...although I must admit that I do not have any experience of doing computational work with the Schrodinger equation..therefore I do not have any idea of the form the equation ought to have...
 

FAQ: Dimensionless equation schrodinger with field magnetic

What is the dimensionless equation Schrodinger with magnetic field?

The dimensionless equation Schrodinger with magnetic field is a mathematical representation of the behavior of quantum particles in the presence of a magnetic field. It combines the Schrodinger equation, which describes the wave-like nature of particles, with the effects of a magnetic field on the particle's motion.

Why is the magnetic field included in the Schrodinger equation?

The magnetic field is included in the Schrodinger equation because it affects the behavior of quantum particles. In classical mechanics, a particle's position and momentum are independent of each other. However, in quantum mechanics, the position and momentum of a particle are related through the wave function, and the presence of a magnetic field can alter this relationship.

What is the significance of the dimensionless form of the equation?

The dimensionless form of the Schrodinger equation with magnetic field allows for a more general and simplified description of the behavior of quantum particles. It removes the dependence on specific units of measurement, making it easier to compare and analyze the behavior of particles in different scenarios.

How is the magnetic field strength represented in the dimensionless equation?

The magnetic field strength is represented by a dimensionless parameter known as the magnetic flux quantum, or h/2e, where h is Planck's constant and e is the charge of an electron. This parameter is used to describe the strength of the magnetic field and its effects on the quantum particles.

What are some applications of the dimensionless equation Schrodinger with magnetic field?

The dimensionless equation Schrodinger with magnetic field has many applications in fields such as condensed matter physics, quantum computing, and nanotechnology. It is used to study the behavior of electrons in materials, simulate quantum systems, and design new technologies that utilize the effects of magnetic fields on quantum particles.

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