Discrete distribution taking only non-negative integer values

In summary, the first line of the proof shows that replacing the summation sign with an inequality sign still equals the same thing. The second line of the proof shows that nothing in the summation depends on the summation variable (i). The last line of the proof shows that the second summation is replaced by a j!
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rickywaldron
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I can't seem to wrap my head around the types of sums used in probability theory, and here is a classic example. Section 6.1 of this article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expect...ution_taking_only_non-negative_integer_values

The first line of the proof, what is going on here? I know how summation works, except I can't see the relation between the LHS and the RHS

Then the last step, I can't see how the second summation goes away and is just replaced by a j!
I always get confused by this notation but when I understand it intuitively I am much more comfortable.

Thanks
 
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In the first line of the proof, they are replacing
[tex]P(X \ge i) = \sum_{j = i}^\infty P(X = j)[/tex]
which is basically just writing out what the inequality sign means (if X is greater than or equal to i, then it is equal to i, or i + 1, or i + 2, etc).

Then they interchange the order of the summation and note that nothing in the summation depends on the summation variable (i) anymore, and they use
[tex]\sum_{i = 1}^j 1 = 1 + 1 + \cdots + 1 \text{ ($j$ times)} = j[/tex]
 
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Thanks, really good response
 
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In fact, looking at the proof, I would probably put it the other way around, starting from the definition [itex]E[X] = \sum j P(X = j)[/itex]. This makes the proof a bit less readable perhaps, the tricks described above seem to come even more from thin air as they do now, but that is quite typical in mathematical proofs, I think.

Also, if you want to be very rigorous: when dealing with infinite sums it is generally not allowed to interchange the order of the summation without additional restrictions on the summand. So when handing this in as an exercise for a class you would want to elaborate a bit on that, I guess.
 
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@CompuChip Could you please explain how the summation interchanged. I could not get how limits of i changed from infinity to till j. Thanks.
 

FAQ: Discrete distribution taking only non-negative integer values

What is a discrete distribution?

A discrete distribution is a probability distribution that is characterized by a set of distinct and finite outcomes, each with an associated probability. The outcomes of a discrete distribution can only take on non-negative integer values.

What is the difference between a discrete distribution and a continuous distribution?

The main difference between a discrete distribution and a continuous distribution is that the outcomes of a discrete distribution are finite and distinct, whereas the outcomes of a continuous distribution can take on any value within a given range. Additionally, a discrete distribution can only take on non-negative integer values, whereas a continuous distribution can take on any real value.

What are some examples of discrete distributions?

Some examples of discrete distributions include the binomial distribution, the Poisson distribution, and the geometric distribution. These distributions are commonly used to model the number of successes or failures in a given number of trials, the number of events occurring in a given time interval, and the number of trials needed to achieve a certain outcome, respectively.

How are probabilities calculated for a discrete distribution?

Probabilities for a discrete distribution are calculated by assigning a probability to each possible outcome and then summing those probabilities to get the total probability. This can be represented mathematically as P(X=x) = p1 + p2 + ... + pn, where X is a random variable, x is a specific outcome, and p1...pn are the probabilities associated with each outcome.

What is the importance of using a discrete distribution in scientific research?

Discrete distributions are often used in scientific research because they allow for the modeling and analysis of discrete data, which is commonly encountered in many fields of study. They also provide a way to calculate probabilities and make predictions about the likelihood of certain outcomes, which can be useful in making informed decisions and drawing conclusions from data.

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