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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuba
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/cu.html
http://www.netforcuba.org/
Here are some general sources on Cuba. Yes one of them is Anti-Castro (two if you automatically catagorize the CIA factbook as such but it seems rather impartial to me). I link the Net For Cuba site because it discusses the issues that people have with Cuba from the perspective of Cubans.
Cuba and Castro et al have been mentioned a number of times here and at least some people seem to indicate that they believe Cuba is a rather successful socialist experiment. These same members don't seem to have much idea why certain people feel such a strong desire to leave Cuba that they risk their lives to immigrate illegally to the US on make shift rafts. Ofcourse no one here has made a case for why they would want to do so either.
At least one member has stated that she will not accept any information from Net For Cuba since they are obviously anti-cuba and anti-castro. To this, if it is an issue, I would have to say that while they may be anti-castro they are not anti-cuba unless you would like to invoke Bush logic and say that anyone who is anti-castro is anti-cuba. This ofcourse is Castro Logic as well. From browsing the website though I have not found them to be foaming at the mouth extremists. They appear to have legitimate grievences against the government regarding such things as http://www.netforcuba.org/HumanRights-EN/HumanRights/main.htm, http://www.netforcuba.org/Opposition-EN/IndependentPress/IndependentJourn.htm, http://www.netforcuba.org/InfoCuba-EN/Social/Main.htm, http://www.netforcuba.org/CubaPP/PresosEN.htm, and the general tyranny that won't even allow them to http://www.netforcuba.org/News-EN/2006/Jan/News907.htm. So if these people (the ones that are fleeing the country) are not to be believed then please explain to me why.
Please share your sources on Cuba and any experiences you may have with Cuba. If you think that the allegations of suppression and abuse are inacurate please provide sources of information to support this.
Lets also discuss the "success" of a country where it's citizens are purportedly abused, brainwashed, oppressed, and unable to even leave all owing directly to the actions and policies of the state.
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/cu.html
http://www.netforcuba.org/
Here are some general sources on Cuba. Yes one of them is Anti-Castro (two if you automatically catagorize the CIA factbook as such but it seems rather impartial to me). I link the Net For Cuba site because it discusses the issues that people have with Cuba from the perspective of Cubans.
Cuba and Castro et al have been mentioned a number of times here and at least some people seem to indicate that they believe Cuba is a rather successful socialist experiment. These same members don't seem to have much idea why certain people feel such a strong desire to leave Cuba that they risk their lives to immigrate illegally to the US on make shift rafts. Ofcourse no one here has made a case for why they would want to do so either.
At least one member has stated that she will not accept any information from Net For Cuba since they are obviously anti-cuba and anti-castro. To this, if it is an issue, I would have to say that while they may be anti-castro they are not anti-cuba unless you would like to invoke Bush logic and say that anyone who is anti-castro is anti-cuba. This ofcourse is Castro Logic as well. From browsing the website though I have not found them to be foaming at the mouth extremists. They appear to have legitimate grievences against the government regarding such things as http://www.netforcuba.org/HumanRights-EN/HumanRights/main.htm, http://www.netforcuba.org/Opposition-EN/IndependentPress/IndependentJourn.htm, http://www.netforcuba.org/InfoCuba-EN/Social/Main.htm, http://www.netforcuba.org/CubaPP/PresosEN.htm, and the general tyranny that won't even allow them to http://www.netforcuba.org/News-EN/2006/Jan/News907.htm. So if these people (the ones that are fleeing the country) are not to be believed then please explain to me why.
Please share your sources on Cuba and any experiences you may have with Cuba. If you think that the allegations of suppression and abuse are inacurate please provide sources of information to support this.
Lets also discuss the "success" of a country where it's citizens are purportedly abused, brainwashed, oppressed, and unable to even leave all owing directly to the actions and policies of the state.
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