Discussion on Astronomical Prime Numbers and Re-evaluating the Primali

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Charles Kusniec
Subject: Discussion on Astronomical Prime Numbers and Re-evaluating the Primality of the Number 1

Dear Members of the Physics Forum,

I hope this message finds you well. I've been avidly exploring various discussions on prime numbers and came across an intriguing thread on your forum titled "Is This Simple Algorithm the Key to Finding the Next Largest Prime Number?" ([Physics Forums Thread](https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/is-this-simple-algorithm-the-key-to-finding-the-next-largest-prime-number.843519/)). This discussion, coupled with insights from post #27 of the thread at the Mersenne Forum ([Mersenne Forum Thread](https://www.mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?t=27328&page=3)), has prompted me to propose a novel approach to identifying Astronomical Prime Numbers of any size.

Central to my approach is a reconsideration of the primality status of the number 1. Traditional mathematical conventions exclude 1 from the set of prime numbers. However, I believe that redefining 1 as a prime number could offer new perspectives and methodologies in prime number theory, particularly in the context of searching for extremely large prime numbers.

This idea, admittedly, challenges long-established norms in number theory. Yet, it opens a gateway to potentially groundbreaking techniques in identifying large primes, a topic of immense interest not only for its mathematical elegance but also for its practical applications in fields such as cryptography.

I am keen on discussing this concept further with the esteemed members of this forum. Your insights, critiques, and contributions would be invaluable in exploring the feasibility and implications of this approach. If this topic resonates with your interests, I would be honored to initiate a detailed discussion here.

Looking forward to an engaging and enlightening exchange of ideas.

Best regards,
 
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Whether we consider 1 as a prime number or not is of no significance whatsoever.
 
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PeroK said:
Whether we consider 1 as a prime number or not is of no significance whatsoever.
If one were a prime number then all numbers would be composite, including one. There would be no prime numbers.
 
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Hornbein said:
If one were a prime number then all numbers would be composite, including one. There would be no prime numbers.
One is not a prime number by convention (in modern mathematics). There's a discussion on the history of the primality of one here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_number
 
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If we allowed units to be prime, then the concept of prime ideals in general and prime numbers in particular would become void. Units fulfill the primality condition trivially since they "divide" any number. Excluding units is of vital importance to work with primes in a meaningful way.

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  • ... the debate of personal theories is against our rules,
  • ... it is based on unreasonable assumptions,
  • ... factorization (UPD) is as of current knowledge NP-hard,
  • ... if UPD was in P, then I'd smell a Fields medal lying around,
  • ... and it is extremely unlikely that this would happen on the internet.
 
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FAQ: Discussion on Astronomical Prime Numbers and Re-evaluating the Primali

What are astronomical prime numbers?

Astronomical prime numbers refer to extremely large prime numbers that are often found and studied using advanced computational methods. These primes are significant in various fields such as cryptography, computer science, and theoretical mathematics.

How are astronomical prime numbers discovered?

Astronomical prime numbers are typically discovered using sophisticated algorithms and high-performance computing. Techniques like the Lucas-Lehmer test for Mersenne primes and the Elliptic Curve Primality Proving (ECPP) are commonly employed to identify and verify large primes.

What is the significance of re-evaluating the primality of large numbers?

Re-evaluating the primality of large numbers ensures the accuracy and reliability of previously identified primes. This process is crucial for applications that rely on prime numbers, such as cryptographic systems, where the integrity of the prime numbers used can directly impact security.

What challenges are associated with studying astronomical prime numbers?

The primary challenges include the computational resources required to test and verify extremely large numbers, the complexity of the algorithms involved, and the need for error-free implementation. Additionally, as numbers grow larger, the time and energy required for computations increase exponentially.

How does the study of astronomical prime numbers impact other scientific fields?

The study of astronomical prime numbers has significant implications for cryptography, where large primes are essential for encryption algorithms. It also impacts number theory and computational mathematics by pushing the boundaries of what is computationally feasible, leading to advancements in algorithm design and high-performance computing.

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