Do All Fractals Exhibit Exact Self-Similarity?

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In summary, some simple fractals, such as the Sierpinski triangle and Cantor set, exhibit exact self-similarity when scaled down. However, for more complex fractals such as the Mandelbrot set, exact self-similarity may not occur and there may be a measure of how close the set comes to it. It is also possible for a fractal to have a limit of exact self-similarity, but still scale by an irrational number. The presence of exact self-similarity in all fractals is a topic of ongoing study and may vary depending on the definition of "simplicity limit."
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Does self-similarity of fractals ever represent an exact, albeit scaled down, reproduction?
 
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Unless I misunderstand what you mean, yes many simple fractals are of this type. See for instance http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sierpinski_triangle" .
 
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and cantor set :D
 
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Can one define a "simplicity limit" beyond which exact self-similarity does not occur?
 
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Loren Booda said:
Can one define a "simplicity limit" beyond which exact self-similarity does not occur?

Care to be more specific? Otherwise, I could define the simplicity limit as "the fractal is exactly self-similar" and get the desired result.
 
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CRGreathouse said:
Care to be more specific? Otherwise, I could define the simplicity limit as "the fractal is exactly self-similar" and get the desired result.

Here's a first attempt at specificity:

Does fractal self-similarity scale by rational numbers, and fractals that are not self-similar scale by irrational numbers?
 
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Loren Booda said:
Here's a first attempt at specificity:

Does fractal self-similarity scale by rational numbers, and fractals that are not self-similar scale by irrational numbers?

No, since the fractal generated as the limit of

F0 = triangle with unit sides
Fn = F(n-1) plus triangle with sides of length x^n
where all triangles are oriented similarly and share a common point

is exactly self-similar but scales by x which can be chosen to be irrational.
 
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Does a Mandelbrot set ever have exact self-similarity, and if not, is there a measure of how close the set comes to it?

My original question should have been: do all fractals have some presence of exact self-similarity?
 
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FAQ: Do All Fractals Exhibit Exact Self-Similarity?

What is exact self-similarity?

Exact self-similarity is a mathematical concept that refers to an object or system that is exactly identical to a smaller or larger version of itself. This means that every part of the object or system is a scaled-down or scaled-up version of the whole, with the same shape and structure.

How is exact self-similarity different from approximate self-similarity?

The main difference between exact and approximate self-similarity is that exact self-similarity requires an exact match between the smaller and larger versions, while approximate self-similarity allows for some degree of variation or distortion in the scaling process.

What types of objects or systems exhibit exact self-similarity?

Exact self-similarity can be found in various natural and man-made objects, such as fractals, crystals, snowflakes, and certain geometric shapes like the Koch curve. It can also be observed in complex systems, such as the human brain, where each part contains the same information as the whole.

What are the applications of exact self-similarity in science?

Exact self-similarity has applications in many fields of science, including mathematics, physics, biology, and computer science. It can help us model and understand complex systems, create more efficient algorithms, and design structures that are stronger and more resistant to damage.

How does exact self-similarity relate to the concept of recursion?

Exact self-similarity is often described as a form of recursive structure, where a pattern or rule is repeated at different scales. In other words, the larger version of the object or system is created by applying the same rule to the smaller version, and this process can continue infinitely. This connection to recursion is one reason why exact self-similarity is a fundamental concept in mathematics and computer science.

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