Do Current Sources Really Exist?

In summary, the conversation discussed the existence of current sources in the real world and gave examples such as battery chargers, vacuum photodiodes, and solid-state photodiodes. It was also mentioned that current sources are not commonly produced due to higher conduction losses compared to insulation losses. The concept of near enough for jazz was also brought up in relation to practical devices that behave as current sources. The conversation concluded with a better understanding of practical current sources.
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samieee
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hi all
I want to know that,do 'current sources '(which supply current) really exist in the world or it is only theoretical concept? if it exists than please give some example.
thanks
 
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Yes they exist, just like voltage sources. Battery charger is a current source for example.
 
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Vacuum photodiodes, photomultipliers, and vacuum tube (especially pentode) anodes are good examples of current (meaning electron current) sources.
Bob S
 
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Or, if you prefer semiconductors, under appropriate conditions a Bipolar Junction Transistor will behave as a current source (collector current), as will most Field Effect Transistors (Drain current).

Solid-state photodiodes also behave as current sources, if they are reverse-biased, or at least not allowed too far into forward-bias.
 
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An inductor tends to maintain its present value of current. When a current is established in an inductor, then a switch is activated forcing the current to change paths, the current does not change abrupltly when the terminal impedance is changed. The voltage abruptly changes. Switching power supplies work in this manner.

A typical electrical generator can output constant current or constant voltage. Forcing the generator at constant speed results in constant voltage. Forcing constant torque results in constant current. An added benefit of constant speed/voltage is constant frequency as well. This makes synchronous devices feasible, like clocks, or phonographs.

A battery can be produced for constant current operation, but constant voltage works better. However, nuclear batteries tend to be optimized to produce constant current.

Current sources are not produced for a good reason. Conduction losses are greater than insulation losses because insulators approach the ideal better than conductors. When turning on a lamp, the wire has a conduction loss due to resistance, and an insulation loss due to leakage in the insulator. But the conduction loss is much greater.

The power grid is constant voltage because it results in much lower losses. A constant current power grid would mean that full current is always being generated and distributed. To turn a device on, we would open a switch in parallel with the device, and a voltage would develop.

This would be very lossy. If high temperature superconductors ever become available and cheap, this might happen. For now, constant voltage is way better and all batteries, and generators will be designed as such.

Does this help?

Claude
 
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There is no such thing as a pure current or voltage source but it is a convenient shorthand (black box) description of many practical devices. Engineers just love the concept of "near enough for Jazz" and there are many working approximations which are used with full justification most of the time.
Using an amplifier with lots of feedback, you can arrange for a given amount of current to flow over a wide range of voltages - that is what a (practical) current source is; it behaves as if its source resistance were infinite . We are, possibly, more familiar with the idea of a constant voltage source, which will maintain the same voltage across it for a wide range of currents. A car battery is a pretty good voltage source (no appreciable internal resistance - until you actually try to turn a starter motor, at which point it becomes relecant) and so is a stabilised power supply - which, again, uses an amplifier with lots of feedback to behave as it there were no source resistance.
Over a wide range of operating volts, even the anode of a humble triode valve behaves like a current source because the stream of electrons is already on its way and the Anode can't do a lot to alter that current, which has been set by the other electrodes.
 
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cabraham said:
Does this help?

Claude

yes now I have some idea about practical current source.
 

Related to Do Current Sources Really Exist?

1. Do current sources really exist?

Yes, current sources do exist. They are devices that provide a constant flow of electric current in a circuit, similar to how a battery or power supply functions.

2. How do current sources work?

Current sources work by maintaining a specific voltage across the circuit, regardless of the resistance or load. They do this by adjusting the output voltage as needed to maintain a constant current flow.

3. What are the types of current sources?

There are two main types of current sources: ideal and practical. Ideal current sources provide an infinite amount of current at a specific voltage, while practical current sources have limitations and may not provide a constant current at all times.

4. Can current sources be used in everyday devices?

Yes, current sources are commonly used in everyday devices such as power supplies, battery chargers, and electronic circuits. They are essential for providing a stable and reliable flow of electricity.

5. Are current sources sustainable?

Current sources can be sustainable depending on the source of the current. For example, renewable energy sources such as solar panels or wind turbines can be used as sustainable current sources. However, non-renewable sources like batteries may not be sustainable in the long term.

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