Do Fields Affect 4-Momentum Conservation?

In summary: The conservation of four-momentum says that the final and initial momentum of particles 1 and 2 after they have collided elastically should be the same. However, if you consider the momentum of the particles 1,2,3,4 "far-away" , that is final corresponding to t \rightarrow \infty and initial to t \rightarrow - \infty (or you can see infinity as 'very large'), the momentum of initial and final will not be the same.
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SiennaTheGr8
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When we encounter particle-collision problems that call for invoking the conservation of four-momentum, are we tacitly assuming a field-free idealization (or at least negligible potential energy)?

For example, say particles 1 and 2 collide elastically. Then the conservation of four-momentum says:
$$\mathbf{P}_{1,i} + \mathbf{P}_{2,i} = \mathbf{P}_{1,f}+ \mathbf{P}_{2,f}$$ (where ##i## means initial and ##f## means final).

But in reality, there's potential energy associated with the (changing) relative positions of the particles, isn't there? So to express the full picture, would we add ##\mathbf{P}_{\textrm{field},i}## to the left side and ##\mathbf{P}_{\textrm{field},f}## to the right side?
 
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We do something similar in nonrelativistic physics.
 
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SiennaTheGr8 said:
But in reality, there's potential energy associated with the (changing) relative positions of the particles, isn't there?
Well, you'd better ask yourself what would happen if you consider the momentum of the particles 1,2,3,4 pretty "far-away" , that is final corresponding to [itex]t \rightarrow \infty[/itex] and initial to [itex] t \rightarrow - \infty[/itex] (or you can see infinity as 'very large').
As long as no new particles as asymptotic states are produced by the interaction of 1,2 to 3,4 the momenta of initial and final should be equal by conservation of energy/momentum... no matter what happened inbetween, since anything that happens inbetween is going to conserve the momentum..
 
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You do need to include the energy+momentum of the fields. A bound positron and electron (positronium) has less energy than a free positron and electron. That extra energy has to come from somewhere!
 
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Khashishi said:
You do need to include the energy+momentum of the fields. A bound positron and electron (positronium) has less energy than a free positron and electron. That extra energy has to come from somewhere!
the bound state of electron and positron [positronium] is again giving you some photons... and the result is again to take: Let's say you have this process:
[itex]e^- e^+ \rightarrow P(^1S_0) \rightarrow \gamma \gamma[/itex]
again you can use [itex]p_{e-} + p_{e+} = p_{\gamma} + p_{\gamma}[/itex]... as if you forget what happened at the intermediate step.
 

FAQ: Do Fields Affect 4-Momentum Conservation?

1. How do fields affect 4-momentum conservation?

The presence of a field can alter the conservation of 4-momentum, as the field itself can carry momentum. This is known as the momentum of the field.

2. What factors determine the impact of fields on 4-momentum conservation?

The strength and direction of the field, as well as the characteristics of the particles involved, can all influence the conservation of 4-momentum in a system.

3. Can the conservation of 4-momentum be violated by fields?

No, the conservation of 4-momentum is a fundamental law of physics that cannot be violated. However, fields can sometimes make it appear as though momentum is not conserved, when in reality it is being transferred to or from the field itself.

4. How does the concept of fields relate to 4-momentum conservation in particle interactions?

Particle interactions involve the exchange of momentum through fields, such as the electromagnetic field in the case of charged particles. The conservation of 4-momentum must be taken into account in these interactions.

5. Are there any real-life applications of understanding the relationship between fields and 4-momentum conservation?

Yes, understanding how fields can affect the conservation of 4-momentum is crucial in many areas of physics, including particle physics and cosmology. It is also important in engineering and technology, such as in the design of particle accelerators and electric motors.

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