Do fractional spins like 4/5 exist?

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In summary, the conversation discussed the relationship between spin 1/2 systems and angles on a sphere, and how it differs from spin 4/5 systems. It also touched on the commutation relations for angular momentum operators and the implications for integer or half-integer values in 3 or more dimensions. The concept of anyons and their connection to 2 dimensional systems was also mentioned.
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In the case of spin 1/2 the state has to be rotated twice 180° to recover the initial one.

If we consider a square made of arcs of equators on a sphere. The interior angle on the sphere is chosen to be 108°.

Then the sphere is rolled along those arcs on a plane.

The square hence draws segments with a 108° angle between them. On the plane this closes only if we roll the sphere twice on one segment and it draws a pentagon.

Hence the sphere had to be rotate 5/4 times 360°.

Could this in some sense describe a spin 4/5 system ?
 
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No. The commutation relations for angular momentum operators imply integer or half-integer values. This is a basic result which is proven in probably all textbooks.
 
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The commutation relations for angular momentum operators imply integer or half-integer values.

It's perhaps worth noting that this theorem holds in 3 or more dimensions, but not in 2 dimensions; in 2 dimensions there is a continuous range of allowed statistics, corresponding to a continuous range of angles ##\theta## that represent the phase shift on an exchange of particles. (Ordinary fermions and bosons correspond to ##\theta = \pi## and ##\theta = 2 \pi## respectively, which are the only possibilities in 3 or more dimensions.) Quasiparticles with "fractional" statistics are called "anyons", more here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anyon

Note that anyon statistics have been observed in real systems where the effective degrees of freedom are restricted to two dimensions, for example in the fractional Hall effect, as noted in the article.
 
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FAQ: Do fractional spins like 4/5 exist?

1. What are fractional spins in physics?

Fractional spins in physics refer to the spin of a particle, which is an intrinsic property that describes its behavior in the presence of a magnetic field. In quantum mechanics, the spin of a particle can only have discrete values, such as 1/2, 1, or 3/2. However, there have been theories proposing the existence of particles with fractional spins, such as 4/5 or 3/4.

2. How do fractional spins differ from whole number spins?

Fractional spins differ from whole number spins in that they do not follow the usual rules of spin in quantum mechanics. For example, particles with fractional spins would not follow the Pauli exclusion principle, which states that two particles with the same spin cannot occupy the same quantum state. Fractional spins also have different symmetries and properties compared to whole number spins.

3. Are there any particles with confirmed fractional spins?

As of now, there are no particles with confirmed fractional spins in the Standard Model of particle physics. However, there have been experimental observations that suggest the existence of particles with fractional spins, such as the anyon observed in the fractional quantum Hall effect. These particles have not yet been fully confirmed and are still a subject of ongoing research.

4. How do scientists study the possibility of fractional spins?

Scientists study the possibility of fractional spins through theoretical models and experimental observations. Theoretical models, such as the fractional quantum Hall effect, provide a framework for understanding the behavior of particles with fractional spins. Experimental techniques, such as scattering experiments, can also provide evidence for the existence of particles with fractional spins.

5. What implications would the existence of fractional spins have on our understanding of physics?

The existence of particles with fractional spins would have significant implications on our understanding of physics. It would challenge our current understanding of quantum mechanics and the Standard Model, and may require the development of new theories to explain their behavior. The discovery of particles with fractional spins would also have practical applications in fields such as quantum computing and materials science.

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