Does Bezout's theorem work both ways?

In summary, Bezout's theorem states that for two algebraic curves defined by polynomials, the number of intersection points, counted with multiplicity, equals the product of their degrees. The theorem is primarily applicable in one direction, where it predicts the intersections based on the degrees of the curves. However, it does not necessarily imply that every set of intersection points corresponds to a unique pair of curves with those degrees, indicating that the theorem does not work both ways.
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Let's assume that for integers ##m## and ##n## (and integers ##x_1## and ##y_1##) the following is satisfied: $$mx_1 + ny_1 = 1$$ Then by this theorem (for some integer ##k##), if ##k|a## and ##k|b## then ##k|mx+ny## for all integers ##x## and ##y##. So it must be, $$k | mx_1 + ny_1$$ for all common factors of ##m## and ##n##. In other words, $$k|1$$ for all common factors of ##m## and ##n##. But this implies that ##k=1## since ##k## is an integer. Thus ##(m, n) = 1##. Since I've never seen this be mentioned before, I'll be happy to see where I went wrong.

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Made a little correction. Numbers ##x_1## and ##y_1## are integers as well.
 
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By Bezout's theorem, if ##(m,n)=1## there exists ##x## and ##y## such that

\begin{align*}
mx+ny=1 .
\end{align*}

Are you asking if we can find integers ##x_1## and ##y_1## such that

\begin{align*}
mx_1+ny_1=1
\end{align*}

then is ##(m,n)=1##? In that case, ##(m,n) | mx_1+ny_1 \Rightarrow (m,n) | 1 \Rightarrow (m,n)=1##.
 
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julian said:
By Bezout's theorem, if ##(m,n)=1## there exists ##x## and ##y## such that

\begin{align*}
mx+ny=1 .
\end{align*}

Are you asking if we can find integers ##x_1## and ##y_1## such that

\begin{align*}
mx_1+ny_1=1
\end{align*}

then is ##(m,n)=1##? In that case, ##(m,n) | mx_1+ny_1 \Rightarrow (m,n) | 1 \Rightarrow (m,n)=1##.
Yes. That's what I'm asking for. Seems like a useful property for problem solving. So, I am right?
 
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It is correct. It follows trivially. As ##(m,n)## divides ##m## and ##n## by definition, and given that we have found ##x_1## and ##x_2## such that ##mx_1+ny_1=1##, we have ##(m,n) | 1##. It may be useful in proving two integers are coprime.
 
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Also, in general ##(m,n)=d## implies ##xm+yn=d## for some integers ##x,y##. The converse is not true, though.
 
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nuuskur said:
Also, in general ##(m,n)=d## implies ##xm+yn=d## for some integers ##x,y##. The converse is not true, though.
Well, in case of a prime number ##k## for which ##xm + yn = k## for some integers ##x,y,m,n##, shouldn't it be true? I mean, ##(m,n)|xm+yn \implies (m,n)|k \implies (m,n) = 1 \vee (m,n) = k##. So we only need to verify whether ##(m,n)## equals 1 or ##k##.
 

FAQ: Does Bezout's theorem work both ways?

1. What is Bézout's theorem?

Bézout's theorem states that for two polynomials in two variables, the number of intersection points of their curves, counted with multiplicity, is equal to the product of their degrees, provided the curves intersect in a projective space. This theorem is fundamental in algebraic geometry and relates to the solutions of polynomial equations.

2. Does Bézout's theorem apply to all types of curves?

Bézout's theorem applies specifically to projective curves defined by polynomials. It is important to note that the theorem holds under certain conditions, such as when the curves are irreducible and do not share a common component. If the curves are not irreducible or have a common factor, the intersection count may differ from the expected product of their degrees.

3. Can Bézout's theorem be used in the reverse direction?

No, Bézout's theorem does not work in reverse. While it can provide the number of intersection points based on the degrees of the curves, knowing the number of intersection points does not allow one to deduce the degrees of the polynomials involved. The relationship is not symmetric, and other factors can influence the intersection count.

4. Are there any exceptions to Bézout's theorem?

Yes, there are exceptions to Bézout's theorem. The theorem assumes that the curves are irreducible and that they intersect in a projective space. If the curves have common components, if they are reducible, or if they intersect at infinity in a way that changes the count, the theorem may not hold as stated.

5. How is Bézout's theorem applied in practical problems?

Bézout's theorem is used in various fields, including computer-aided geometric design, robotics, and algebraic geometry. It helps in determining the number of solutions to systems of polynomial equations, analyzing the behavior of curves, and finding intersection points in computational geometry. Its applications extend to areas such as optimization and numerical methods in mathematics.

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