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In summary, the conversation revolves around the existence of a function F, specifically F:\mathbb{Z}\rightarrow\mathbb{Z}, such that \Delta F(g_n)=\frac{\Delta g_n}{ g_n} for an arbitrary function g. It is questioned whether such a function exists and whether it can be generalized for non-piecewise functions g with specific values. It is also noted that there may be a problem with the range of F being \mathbb{Z} due to the division by g_n.
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If we define a finite difference operator as [tex]\Delta a_n = a_{n+1}-a_n[/tex]

Can we prove or disprove the existence of a function F, [tex]F:\mathbb{Z}\rightarrow\mathbb{Z}[/tex], such that [tex]\Delta F(g_n)=\frac{\Delta g_n}{ g_n}[/tex], where g is some arbitrary function?
Edit: fixed Big typo
 
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Is that [itex]\exists g\exists F[/itex], [itex]\forall g\exists F[/itex], or [itex]\exists F\forall g[/itex]?
 
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[tex]\exists F\forall g[/tex]
 
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suppose [itex] g_0 = 1, g_1 = 2 [/itex] and [itex]g_2 = 1 [/itex]

Then [tex] f(2) - f(1) = \frac {g_2 - g_1} {g_1} = 1 [/tex] and

[tex] f(1) - f(2) = \frac {g_3 - g_2} {g_2} = -1/2 [/tex]

so there can't be any F for this g
 
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Can you generalize a non-piecewise function for g that has the values [itex]g_0 = 1, g_1 = 2[/itex], and [itex]g_2 = 1[/itex]?
 
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epkid08 said:
Can you generalize a non-piecewise function for g that has the values [itex]g_0 = 1, g_1 = 2[/itex], and [itex]g_2 = 1[/itex]?

Why? Of course there is a quadratic going through these points.

Is the range of F really [itex]\mathbb{Z} [/itex]?. That is a problem with the division by [itex] g_n [/itex]
 
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willem2 said:
Is the range of F really [itex]\mathbb{Z} [/itex]?. That is a problem with the division by [itex] g_n [/itex]
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Now that I think about it, it shouldn't be.
 

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