Does this operator commute with the Hamiltonian operator?

In summary, the mean value of a time-independent operator over an energy eigenstate remains constant over time. This can be shown using the Ehrenfest theorem, which demonstrates that the operator and the Hamiltonian operator, both of which act on energy eigenstates, must commute. The time-dependent energy eigenfunction takes the form of ##e^{-iE_nt}|n\rangle##, where ##E_n## is the energy at time ##t=0## and ##t## is the time elapsed.
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Homework Statement


Show that the mean value of a time-independent operator over an
energy eigenstate is constant in time.

Homework Equations


Ehrenfest theorem

The Attempt at a Solution


I get most of it, I'm just wondering how to say/show that this operator will commute with the Hamiltonian operator.
Is it correct to say that because they both act on energy eigenstates, they must commute?
If so, is there a way to show this?
 
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What is the form of the time-dependent energy eigenfunction? Say at ##t=0## this eigenfunction is ##|n\rangle## having energy ##E_n##, how does it look like at a later time ##t##?
 

Related to Does this operator commute with the Hamiltonian operator?

1. What does it mean for two operators to commute?

Two operators commute if the order in which they are applied does not affect the overall result. In other words, if A and B are operators, then A and B commute if A(Bψ) = B(Aψ) for any state ψ.

2. Why is it important to know if an operator commutes with the Hamiltonian operator?

The Hamiltonian operator represents the total energy of a physical system. If an operator commutes with the Hamiltonian, it means that the corresponding physical quantity is conserved in time. This is important in understanding the dynamics and behavior of the system.

3. How can I determine if an operator commutes with the Hamiltonian operator?

To determine if two operators commute, you can use the commutator, which is defined as [A,B] = AB - BA. If the commutator is equal to zero, then the operators commute. To specifically determine if an operator commutes with the Hamiltonian, you can use the time-independent Schrödinger equation Hψ = Eψ, where H is the Hamiltonian operator, ψ is the wavefunction, and E is the energy eigenvalue.

4. Are there any physical quantities that always commute with the Hamiltonian operator?

Yes, the Hamiltonian operator always commutes with itself, as well as with any scalar multiple of itself. This is because the Hamiltonian represents the total energy of a system, and energy is always conserved. Additionally, any operator that is independent of time will commute with the Hamiltonian.

5. What are the consequences if an operator does not commute with the Hamiltonian operator?

If an operator does not commute with the Hamiltonian, it means that the corresponding physical quantity is not conserved in time. This can have significant consequences for the dynamics and behavior of the system. For example, if the position operator does not commute with the Hamiltonian, it means that the position of a particle is not conserved, and its trajectory may be affected by other physical quantities.

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