Does Time have a mathematical equation or Law?

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of time and whether it has a mathematical equation or law. The participants mention various theories and equations, such as Minkowski's "World Postulate" and Einstein's theory of relativity. They also touch on the idea that time is relative and affected by factors such as gravity and velocity. The conversation ends with a metaphorical story about the nature of time and the limitations of human understanding.
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Does Time have a mathematical equation or Law?

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I'd go with
[tex]t \mapsto t[/tex]
 
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"Laws", in general, and "mathematical equations" relate different things. It makes no sense to talk about a "law" or "mathematical equation" for a single thing such as time.

(Unless you have something trivial like CompuChip's [itex]t\mapsto t[/itex] which relates time to itself. That reminds me of Kierkegaards' dictum "Existence is that relation which relates itself to itself". I have never been able to make heads or tails of that!)
 
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Time keeps the universe from freezing.
 
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Hallo nukeman,
I think I have an answer:

3*10^5 km = sqrt(-1) Sec.

Space and Time (1908) by Hermann Minkowski,
A Lecture of delivered before the Naturforscher Versammlung (Congress of Natural Philosophers) at Cologne — (21st September, 1908).
 
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Agent Lumino said:
Hallo nukeman,
I think I have an answer:

3*10^5 km = sqrt(-1) Sec.

Space and Time (1908) by Hermann Minkowski,
A Lecture of delivered before the Naturforscher Versammlung (Congress of Natural Philosophers) at Cologne — (21st September, 1908).

Thanks everyone!

Hey Agent Lumino, that's interesting, I am going to look more into that.

HallsOfIvy: You say: "relate different things"

Time interacts with a black hole correct? Would'nt its relationship with a black hole mean it has some type of equation? Or no?
 
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Time on Earth's surface is 1 second per second anywhere else it is more or less depending on time dilation. Time dilation is a factor of velocity, distance from the earth, and nearby Mass to the clock.
 
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Time is not absolute, it is affected by gravity, as Einstein discovered.

Here's the formula for a clock in circular orbit:

[tex]t_0 = t_f \sqrt{1 - \frac{3}{2} \! \cdot \! \frac{r_0}{r}}\, .[/tex]

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_time_dilation"
 
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Agent Lumino said:
Hallo nukeman,
I think I have an answer:

3*10^5 km = sqrt(-1) Sec.

What the hell is that?
 
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Hallo Pengwuino, this equation is called "The World Postulate" and it is part of Hermann Minkowski’s famous lecture “Space and Time” held in 1908 before the Naturforscher Versammlung (Congress of Natural Philosophers) at Cologne — (21st September, 1908). To be read on Wiki: http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Space_and_Time
I don’t know why this postulate is not really discussed since more than one century. But for me it’s simply a very ecstatic explanation for the nature of time. Minkowski was a genius as he brought Einstein’s SRT into graphics.
With a nice short story, I will join the ideas of Hermann Minkowski, who surely died too early.
“The Flashlight of the Photographer”
A Metaphorical Apologue

At midnight a photographer with his flashlight is making an outdoor photo of his wife.
In this moment billions of photons are spread out. Most of them will pass his wife and start an infinite journey to space. But some of them will hit the face of his wife and will be reflected to the sensor of his camera, where they will be changed to electrical impulses and in summary to an image of the photographer’s wife.

Albert Einstein has shown that fast moving objects get two experiences while observing there surrounding:
1. In other initial systems time seems to proceed more slowly.
2. In the direction of the movement distances seem to be shorter.
These effects are equal for the initial system of the observer as well as for the observed one.
That’s why it is called the “Relativity Theory”.
In case of photons the speed of the movement is the speed of light, a maximum on principle in our universe. So time is standing still for photons and space has no elongation in the direction of their movement.
But if photons would be intelligent enough to describe their experience of their movement through space, they probably will say: “It seems that we are in a kind of motion, but we do not know how fast and we have no idea where we are going to. Also we cannot go more slowly or faster. But after all we know where we have been yet.”
And then we will realize that our experience of time is very similar to the experience of their movement.
Could it be true, that our time is nothing else, than a movement through an, at least 5-dimensional space with the maximum speed on principle, similar to a photon’s journey. No wonder, why we cannot see any higher dimensions - similar to photons – and why we have freedom of motion only in three remaining dimensions.

In case of the photographer billions of photons are spread out to produce an image in his camera. If some of these “intelligent photons” start to reflect their own life, where they come from, the meaning of being and existence, even about their sense of life, they surely never ever will suggest that a photographer has created them in order to abuse and destruct them just to get a photo of his wife.
Could it be true, that the big bang was something like a higher dimensional flashlight photo?
And while we surge for answers, we know that we are as stupid as a photon, when we try to understand the meaning of a big bang.

Andreas Habelt, November 2006.
 

FAQ: Does Time have a mathematical equation or Law?

What is the mathematical equation or law for time?

As a scientist, I can tell you that there is no single mathematical equation or law for time. Time is a complex concept that is studied in various fields such as physics, mathematics, and philosophy. Different equations and laws have been proposed to explain different aspects of time, but there is no one definitive equation or law.

Can time be measured or quantified?

Yes, time can be measured and quantified using different units such as seconds, minutes, hours, days, etc. These units are based on the rotation of the Earth and the movement of celestial bodies. However, the concept of time goes beyond just measurement and quantification.

How does the concept of time relate to the laws of physics?

The concept of time is closely related to the laws of physics, as time is a fundamental component of many physical theories. For example, in Einstein's theory of relativity, time is considered the fourth dimension and is intertwined with space. The laws of physics also dictate how time behaves in different scenarios, such as in the theory of time dilation.

Is time a linear or cyclical concept?

The concept of time can be seen as both linear and cyclical. On one hand, time moves forward in a linear fashion, from past to present to future. On the other hand, time can also be seen as cyclical, with events and patterns repeating themselves over time, such as the cycles of day and night or the changing of seasons.

Can time be manipulated or controlled?

As of now, there is no scientifically proven way to manipulate or control time. While science has made significant advancements in understanding time, we have yet to discover a way to alter its course. Time is a constant force that is beyond our control.

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