Drugs for Closest Feeling to Being in Love?

In summary: I think it's more physiological than anything else.I can remember once noticing her and acting so uncontrollable that people might have thought I was on drugs or something. I just couldn't control myself at the time, I was acting very irrationally. At the time, I was thinking whether being on drugs gave you the same uncontrollable feeling. However during those love moments, I don't get any sexual...feelings at all. I think it's more physiological than anything else.In summary, drugs such as ecstasy or viagra can give you a feeling similar to the "aw shucks, you guys are all so great! love-the-world variety". However, true love is more physiological than
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binzing said:
Umm, when your physically mature I'd assume the body would make the most. Although, maybe when you are in puberty.

When does it decline?
 
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I don't know. I am assuming you are not from the US, Canada, or Britain, so it might be worth it to check it out in some of your native language websites.
 
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binzing said:
I don't know. I am assuming you are not from the US, Canada, or Britain, so it might be worth it to check it out in some of your native language websites.


Native language?
 
  • #39
The reason that I mentioned chocolate is that it's a heavy source of phenylethylamine, which is a chemical naturally produced when one is in love.
As for the age thing, I think that it depends upon one's circumstances. An uncommitted fellow can go for his entire life. If you're in a monogamous relationship, things change. There were over half a dozen young ladies hanging about after our pool match tonight, anyone of which would normally have had me tripping over my tongue.
W made it very clear when we first moved in together (about a month after we met) that she would never even consider a sexual relationship with another guy. My family has always been a bit relaxed in that regard, but I submitted to her opinion. Now, even though it's not natural for humans to be monogamists, I can't pay any sort of attention to even the hotties that were around tonight. That's not a matter of submitting to her will; it's a matter of me not wanting anyone but her.
My sex drive essentially doesn't exist apart from hers. Unless she wants some, I have no desire. When she does, I'm up for it (pardon the expression) instantly. That strikes me as a little weird, but it suits both of us.
 
  • #40
Danger said:
The reason that I mentioned chocolate is that it's a heavy source of phenylethylamine, which is a chemical naturally produced when one is in love.
As for the age thing, I think that it depends upon one's circumstances. An uncommitted fellow can go for his entire life. If you're in a monogamous relationship, things change. There were over half a dozen young ladies hanging about after our pool match tonight, anyone of which would normally have had me tripping over my tongue.
W made it very clear when we first moved in together (about a month after we met) that she would never even consider a sexual relationship with another guy. My family has always been a bit relaxed in that regard, but I submitted to her opinion. Now, even though it's not natural for humans to be monogamists, I can't pay any sort of attention to even the hotties that were around tonight. That's not a matter of submitting to her will; it's a matter of me not wanting anyone but her.
My sex drive essentially doesn't exist apart from hers. Unless she wants some, I have no desire. When she does, I'm up for it (pardon the expression) instantly. That strikes me as a little weird, but it suits both of us.

Do you want to say that it's something physiological and has nothing to do with morality and commitment?

PS I guess my English is getting so terrible these days so take it easy on me if I've made any mistake here!:wink:
 
  • #41
Danger said:
The reason that I mentioned chocolate is that it's a heavy source of phenylethylamine, which is a chemical naturally produced when one is in love.
As for the age thing, I think that it depends upon one's circumstances. An uncommitted fellow can go for his entire life. If you're in a monogamous relationship, things change. There were over half a dozen young ladies hanging about after our pool match tonight, anyone of which would normally have had me tripping over my tongue.
W made it very clear when we first moved in together (about a month after we met) that she would never even consider a sexual relationship with another guy. My family has always been a bit relaxed in that regard, but I submitted to her opinion. Now, even though it's not natural for humans to be monogamists, I can't pay any sort of attention to even the hotties that were around tonight. That's not a matter of submitting to her will; it's a matter of me not wanting anyone but her.
My sex drive essentially doesn't exist apart from hers. Unless she wants some, I have no desire. When she does, I'm up for it (pardon the expression) instantly. That strikes me as a little weird, but it suits both of us.

Thanks for the insight. It's strange how humans behave. I can share my little story. When I was living with my parents, my sex drive was lowering but as soon as I moved out, it rose remarkably not for any other reason other than that I am living independently on my own. I think it is beautiful what you described. Glad it exists.
 
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  • #42
Danger, what does W think about your former sex partners?
 
  • #43
She just doesn't want to hear about them. It isn't because of the sex; it's because they were unsuccessful relationships which she takes to mean that they were not good people. I tried to introduce her to the ex-from-hell, and she wouldn't even go to that side of the room. I got sneaky about it, though; I introduced her to a different ex (who is married to my best friend; I was best-man at the wedding) without mentioning the background. They got on like gangbusters. It was about 2 days before I clued her in, but by then they were friends so it didn't matter.
She was no virgin when I met her. She lived with 2 different guys, one of whom fathered her 2 sons (starting when she was 16), and was married to 2 others. Her 2nd husband died about a year before we met, and the first, who was the father of her 2 daughters, just died Thursday afternoon. That's why she isn't her now. She's up in Lloyd trying to hold things together for the kids.
 
  • #44
binzing said:
Source of oxytocin: sex, childbirth, and love. Basically, get some of your blood right after you've had sex and you'd have it there.
Don't confuse sexual desire with being in love, or loving someone. That seems to be a common misconception.

There are a number of compounds that cause feelings of euphoria similar to those one experiences during an infatuation. However, like euphoria, those feelings subside and one needs to take additional doses of such a compound in order to repeat the euphoric sensation.

Being in love brings with it a sustained feeling, at least in my experience, of happiness, joy, contentment and satisfaction that is unachieveable with any drug.
 
  • #45
Astronuc said:
Being in love brings with it a sustained feeling, at least in my experience, of happiness, joy, contentment and satisfaction that is unachieveable with any drug.

I think I just had such a feeling with someone in a class. At the time, I was thinking this state I'm in must be the 'definition of happiness'. All other forms of happiness is only a fraction of what I was feeling at the time.
 
  • #46
tgt said:
I think I just had such a feeling with someone in a class. At the time, I was thinking this state I'm in must be the 'definition of happiness'. All other forms of happiness is only a fraction of what I was feeling at the time.
I suspect one experienced an infatuation, which is often what people mean when they say 'falling in love'. Certainly the 'love at first sight' feeling is pretty power because of the release of chemicals which causes an immediate sensation ('rush') based on the immediate change in brain chemistry. That's quite natural, and probably many relationships begin this way.

But to really love someone, one has to know that person very well.
 
  • #47
Astronuc said:
I suspect one experienced an infatuation, which is often what people mean when they say 'falling in love'. Certainly the 'love at first sight' feeling is pretty power because of the release of chemicals which causes an immediate sensation ('rush') based on the immediate change in brain chemistry. That's quite natural, and probably many relationships begin this way.

But to really love someone, one has to know that person very well.

So I guess the really love someone feeling is not as intense as the infatuation you talked about?

Mind you, the one I am talking about wasn't very immediate and took some conversations and after an hour, it really kicked in. Is that still 'love at first sight'? Or something else?
 
  • #48
tgt said:
So I guess the really love someone feeling is not as intense as the infatuation you talked about?

It's not intense in the way that I think you're using the word. It is very deep and sustained, but without that 'rush' effect. I risk degrading the matter by offering an analogy, but what the hell... I think that it's vaguely similar to the difference between relaxing with a very fine old Scotch or snorting a line of coke. One can make you feel like the king of the world for a brief interlude, and then it's gone. The other can keep you mellow and content for several hours.
 
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Danger said:
It's not intense in the way that I think you're using the word. It is very deep and sustained, but without that 'rush' effect. I risk degrading the matter by offering an analogy, but what the hell... I think that it's vaguely similar to the difference between relaxing with a very fine old Scotch or snorting a line of coke. One can make you feel like the king of the world for a brief interlude, and then it's gone. The other can keep you mellow and content for several hours.

How long and how well does one need to know someone before this deep and sustained love can occur?

I haven't smoked coke or other drugs like it before but which does one feel is more king of the world, intense infatuation or smoking coke? I am aware both are for a short period of time.
 
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  • #50
That is entirely up to the individuals involved. One thing that I can tell you for sure, though, is that it continues to become stronger throughout the relationship. It not only survives good times, hardships, and tooth-and-nail arguments... it thrives upon them. Every interaction that you have, whether it's holding her tightly when she's sad or holding her head under the covers when you fart, brings you closer together. (Although the immediate reaction might not be the same. :rolleyes:)
 
  • #51
How do you explain infatuation with the same person that last years? It's infatuation because you don't know them well at all and haven't contacted them all those years.
 
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I suspect that it's precisely because you don't know her well and have been out of contact. There has been no input to either enhance or destroy the initial infatuation. It's like some guy with a Marilyn Monroe calendar in his garage who doesn't realize that she's dead, or would be as old as his grandmother if she were still alive. In the lack of contrary evidence, the fantasy lives on.
 
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So infatuation can be both short term and long term? I wonder what determines the time period.
 
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People. As I said, everyone is different.
 
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binzing said:
Eee gads, old sex. BTW, I meant like 65 plus. Not those below that. When I'm like 70 and up I am going to be the most crotchey, ornery old b@$t@rd on Earth. It'll be so much fun!

I have to agree that old people, making love or having sex, on TV shows or in the movies, is a bit of a turn-off, but the young script writers can make it look pretty stupid, with all their, throwing each other around stuff, or being shot full of holes, they still can feel good enough to make mad passionate love.(give me a break)

As for the age thing, I'm 65+, and though my body has grown older the mind has not, the girls look just as pretty as they did when i was 19.

One of the joy's of getting older, is the ability to admire beauty, without the lust messing your mind up:smile:
 
  • #56
RonL said:
One of the joy's of getting older, is the ability to admire beauty, without the lust messing your mind up:smile:
That is nice part of getting old - being able to appreciate a beautiful woman, and not get worked up about it.


tgt said:
So infatuation can be both short term and long term? I wonder what determines the time period.
Using a definition of infatuation from Merriam-Webster dictionary - "to inspire with a foolish or extravagant love or admiration" - I see infatuation as more irrational than foolish.

Many or most relationships start with a degree of infatuation simply because both parties (in a bilateral relationship) do not know each other. Once the parties get to know each other and establish a mutual understanding and awareness of each other, and there exists a reciprocally and mutually supporting relationship built upon trust, respect, care and concern, then they have established a loving relationship.

With the right person, one can be 'in love' for a lifetime - as is the case for me.
 
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Astronuc said:
That is nice part of getting old - being able to appreciate a beautiful woman, and not get worked up about it.

Is it that you can't get worked up as in biologically can't?
 
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tgt said:
Is it that you can't get worked up as in biologically can't?
No - I can get worked up with the right woman. :biggrin:
 
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tgt said:
Is it that you can't get worked up as in biologically can't?

You reach a maturity level, that allows you to chose the moment, there are times when no matter how you feel, for some reason(s) it is best savored at some other time.:wink:
 
  • #60
for me it is her voice,her voice is like a drug when i speak with her on the phone or just when i see her or when i act like crazy when i try to see her
when i fight every one for her.or just when i see her from far away...
thats my love drug
 
  • #61
RonL said:
You reach a maturity level, that allows you to chose the moment, there are times when no matter how you feel, for some reason(s) it is best savored at some other time.:wink:

That seem to make sense. This maturity level keeps on increasing as in the teenage years, you'd do it with just about anyone.

That is why it is better to keep the young controlled however with the internet, it's certainly an uphill battle.
 
  • #62
tgt said:
This maturity level keeps on increasing as in the teenage years, you'd do it with just about anyone.

Kids these days must mature faster. In my teen years, it was anything. Not for nothing are those porcupines at my birthday party rolling around on their backs.
 

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