Durham or imperial for undergrad?

In summary: It seems like a great option for someone looking to further their education. However, I'm a bit confused. How is a masters still considered an undergraduate degree?
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hi,
have just received offers from both imperial and durham for a masters in physics. can anybody give me any advice on which to pick? to me it seems very much a choice between the better institution (icl) and the lifestyle (durham)

any feedback from people who have studied at either would be especially helpful:smile:
 
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To be honest at an ugrad institution there is no difference - you won't learn more topics or have better lecturers at either. Similarly nobody is going to care between top 10 institutions if you are looking for a job or a PhD place.
If you want to live in London and spend more time commuting to class pick IC, if you want to freeze your whatsits off in the North (but meet people who aren't scientist - even possibly girls) pick Durham.
 
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I'm confused, how is a masters still considered undergrad?
 
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moo5003 said:
I'm confused, how is a masters still considered undergrad?

In the UK there are such degrees called 'undergraduate masters' degrees. These are first degrees which take four years, after which you obtain something like an MPhys (Master of Physics) or an MSci (Master in Science) etc..
 
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Maybe it's a combined bachelor's/masters program
 
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As christo said, UK degrees have been extended with an optional fourth year.
This is because with rising exam results the arriving students are now so brilliant it takes an extra year to teach them anything they don't already know. It isn't anything to do with them arriving never having heard of calculus and having only a pretty scarce idea of algebra - no that's nothing to do with it ... grumble ... grumble ... kids today ... grumble... grumble...

It's regarded something like an honours degree from 10years ago and is generally a requirement for a PhD program.
 
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Congratulations on your 6000th post, Cristo!
 
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mgb_phys said:
It isn't anything to do with them arriving never having heard of calculus and having only a pretty scarce idea of algebra - no that's nothing to do with it ... grumble ... grumble ... kids today ... grumble... grumble...

Now now, grandad.. some of us are one of the aforementioned 'kids' :biggrin:

uman said:
Congratulations on your 6000th post, Cristo!

Thanks!
 
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cristo said:
In the UK there are such degrees called 'undergraduate masters' degrees. These are first degrees which take four years, after which you obtain something like an MPhys (Master of Physics) or an MSci (Master in Science) etc..

Thanks for the clarification.
 

FAQ: Durham or imperial for undergrad?

What are the differences between Durham and Imperial for undergraduate studies?

Durham University and Imperial College London are both top-ranked universities in the UK, but they have some key differences. Durham is a collegiate university, meaning students are part of a smaller college within the larger university community. Imperial, on the other hand, is a specialized science and technology university. Additionally, Imperial offers a more focused education on science and technology subjects, while Durham has a wider range of subjects to choose from.

Which university has a better reputation for undergraduate programs?

Both Durham and Imperial are highly reputable universities, but they have different areas of strength. Durham is known for its humanities, social sciences, and natural sciences programs, while Imperial is renowned for its engineering, science, and medicine programs. Ultimately, the better reputation depends on the specific program you are interested in.

What are the admission requirements for Durham and Imperial?

The admission requirements for both universities vary depending on the program and the applicant's academic background. Generally, both universities require high academic achievements, strong references, and a personal statement. Durham also considers an applicant's performance on the Thinking Skills Assessment, while Imperial requires applicants to take the BMAT or an admissions test specific to their program.

Which university has a better student life?

This is a subjective question and depends on personal preferences. Durham's collegiate system offers a more close-knit community, while Imperial's larger campus and focus on science and technology may appeal to some students. Both universities have a wide range of student societies, sports teams, and events to get involved in, so it ultimately comes down to what you are looking for in your university experience.

What are the career prospects for graduates of Durham and Imperial?

Both universities have a strong reputation and produce highly employable graduates. Durham has a strong network of alumni and a career center to support students in their job search. Imperial's focus on science and technology also means that its graduates are highly sought after in specific industries. Ultimately, the career prospects for graduates from either university depend on their individual skills, experiences, and career goals.

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