Dynamic cylinder + pulley question

In summary, the conversation discusses a problem involving two cylinders (A and B) connected by ropes and pulleys. The author uses a labeling system to identify different components and calculates the velocity and acceleration of the system. They also suggest using a clearer labeling system and double checking units for better understanding and accuracy. The final answer, although difficult to confirm without specific values, appears to be correct based on the given information.
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Homework Statement



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Homework Equations


I denote the top of the ceiling to the top of cylinder A la.
I denote the top most small pulley above A to the larger pulley bottom directly above A as Xa
I denote the distance from the pulley that changes the direction of the rope to the ceiling la'
I denote the top most pulley above B to the smaller pulley bottom directly above B as Xb
I denote the top of the ceiling to the top of cylinder B as lb.
I call upward motion -ve and downward +ve in the calculations.



The Attempt at a Solution



(la-2xa) + (xa-la') + (lb-2xb) = C
then I say l* is a constant so..
-2xa+xa-2xb=C
now I differentiate to attain velocity
-dXa/dt -2dxb/dt = const/dt = 0
-Va -2Vb=0 therefore Vb = -0.4m/s or 0.4m/s UP

now i differentiate again to attain acceleration
-dVa/dt -2dVb/dt =0
-Aa-2Ab=0 therefore Ab =-1m/s2 or 1m/s^2 UP

Vba = Vb-Va = (-0.4 - 0.8m/s) = -1.2m/s or 1.2m/s UP
Aba = Ab -Aa = (-1.2m/s^2 - 2m/s^2) = -3m/s^2 or 3m/s^2 UP

Can anyone confirm that my initial labeling is correct, and also hopefully that my final answer is correct?
 
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I would suggest using a more clear and consistent labeling system to help with understanding and avoiding confusion. For example, using subscripts for different components (e.g. A1, A2, B1, B2) or using different variables for different quantities (e.g. l1, l2, X1, X2). This would also make it easier to follow your equations and calculations.

In terms of your final answer, it is difficult for me to confirm without knowing the specific values of the variables and the units being used. However, your approach seems reasonable and your calculations appear to be correct based on the given information. It would be helpful to double check your units and make sure they are consistent throughout the problem. Also, it may be useful to draw a free body diagram for each object to better visualize the forces at play. Keep up the good work!
 
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I can confirm that your labeling and calculations appear to be correct. Your approach to the problem is logical and your use of equations is appropriate. However, it is always a good idea to double check your work and make sure that all units are consistent throughout your calculations. Additionally, it would be helpful to clearly define all variables used in your solution to avoid confusion. Overall, your response demonstrates a good understanding of the concepts involved in this problem.
 

FAQ: Dynamic cylinder + pulley question

What is a dynamic cylinder and pulley question?

A dynamic cylinder and pulley question is a problem in physics that involves a moving cylinder connected to a pulley system. It typically requires the use of equations and principles of kinematics and dynamics to solve.

How do I approach solving a dynamic cylinder and pulley question?

The first step is to draw a clear diagram of the system and label all the variables involved. Then, identify the forces acting on the cylinder and use Newton's laws of motion to set up equations. Finally, solve for the desired variable using algebraic manipulation.

What are the common variables and formulas used in a dynamic cylinder and pulley question?

The common variables include the mass of the cylinder, the radius of the pulley, the acceleration of the system, and the tension in the rope or string. The formulas used include Newton's second law (F=ma), the rotational kinematic equations, and the work-energy theorem.

How do I account for friction in a dynamic cylinder and pulley question?

Friction can be accounted for by including an additional force in the equations, such as the force of friction (Ff) or the coefficient of friction (μ). The direction of the friction force will depend on the direction of motion and the orientation of the pulley system.

Can a dynamic cylinder and pulley question be solved using numerical methods?

Yes, a dynamic cylinder and pulley question can be solved using numerical methods such as the Euler method or the Runge-Kutta method. These methods involve using a computer program to approximate the solution by breaking it down into smaller, more manageable steps.

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