Eigenfunction Do I just plug in the f(x) equation into T(f)?

In summary, the given question defines an operator, T, which acts on functions f(x) with two derivatives. An eigenfunction of T is a function g(x) such that Tg(x) = λg(x) for some constant λ. The question asks to show that the given function f(x) = exp(kx) is an eigenfunction of T for all values of k. By applying T to f(x), it is found that λ = (k-3)(k+1). The allowed values of k are all real numbers, and the corresponding eigenvalues are all real numbers as well, forming a parabolic curve when plotted.
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pyroknife
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The problem is attached.

I am not quite sure how to do the 3 parts.

for part a:

Do I just plug in the f(x) equation into T(f)?
If so that gives me k2ekx-2*kekx-3ekx
I'm just not sure what I'm supposed to be doing.
 

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What does it mean to be an eigenfunction? If you apply a linear differential operator to one of its eigenfunctions, what should the result be?
 
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pyroknife said:
The problem is attached.

I am not quite sure how to do the 3 parts.

for part a:

Do I just plug in the f(x) equation into T(f)?
If so that gives me k2ekx-2*kekx-3ekx
I'm just not sure what I'm supposed to be doing.

The question defines an operator, T, which acts on functions f(x), which have two derivatives. If you apply the operator T to some function g(x) and you find that ##Tg(x) = \lambda g(x)## for some number ##\lambda##, then g(x) would be called an eigenfunction of the operator T, because the operator acts on g(x) and gives back g(x) times a constant.

The question tells you to apply the operator T to the function f(x) = exp(kx), and asks you to show that it is an eigenfunction. You applied T to the function f(x) and got the result that you listed in your post; now you just have to manipulate that expression into the form ##\mbox{(some constant that depends on}~k) \times f(x)##.
 
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All eigenvalue problems have the form T f(x)= t f(x), where t is a constant. If you have an operator and it acts on a function in this way, you have an eigenfunction and eigenvalue.

So for a.) you have to show that the eigenvalue exists for all values of k in the eigenfunction.

Part b.) kind of follows from part a.) at least I think, unless I'm missing something.

Part c.) involves some guessing. Find a function that satisfies that equation.
 
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Thanks so for k2ekx-2*kekx-3ekx
this would be ekx(k^2-2k-3)=ekx(k-3)(k+1)
But hwo does that "show for each value of k, the function f(x) is an eigenfunction for T?"
 
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So your eigenvalue for that function is (k-3)(k+1). For any value of k this is a well-defined function for the eigenvalue. Thus e^kx is an eigenfunction for all k.
 
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klawlor419 said:
For any value of k this is a well-defined function for the eigenvalue. Thus e^kx is an eigenfunction for all k.

I'm not quite sure if i understand why this means for all values of k, this is a well defined function for the eigenvalue.
 
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So I labeled my eigenvalue in the first post as t, a number. You found t(k)=(k-3)(k+1). This function is well-defined for all k.

Lets say that you found t(k)=(k-3)/(k+1). At k=-1 you have t=-4/0 which is infinite or undefined.

The eigenvalue you found has no problems in its range like this. So it is well-defined for all values of k.
 
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Oh I see I think I understand this, thanks. I'll take a look at the other parts now.
 
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So for part b)
Since e^kx(k^2-2k-3)=e^kx(k-3)(k+1)

Does that mean the eigen values are just k=3 and k=-1?
 
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No. You need to learn what an eigenvalue and an eigenfunction are instead of just guessing. What does your book say?
 
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There's one section that says:
Let V be a vector space
and T:V −→ V be a linear operator. A number λ is an eigenvalue of T provided
that there is a nonzero vector v in V such that T (v) = λv. Every nonzero vector that
satisfies this equation is an eigenvector of T corresponding to the eigenvalue λ.

Nothing is said about eigenfunctions, so I guess I have to apply this definition. T(v)=e^kx(k^2-2k-3)=e^kx(k-3)(k+1)=λe^kx
Canceling out e^kx
gives λ=(k-3)(K+1)

Doesn't that mean the eigenvalues are λ=3, -1?
 
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No, why would it? How are you going from ##\lambda = (k-3)(k+1)## to ##\lambda=3, -1##?
 
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vela said:
No, why would it? How are you going from ##\lambda = (k-3)(k+1)## to ##\lambda=3, -1##?
hmmm, I wish setting lambda=0, which is incorrect.
Hmmm λ=(k-3)(k+1)=k^2-2k-3

Does this mean lamba is all real numbers?

So when it says Find the corresponding eigenvalues for each
eigenfunction f (x) = e^kx.

Basically lamda is all real values?
 
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Remember k represents a specific value. For each possible value of k, ekx is an eigenfunction of T. For example, if k=2, then you have f(x)=e2x, and the corresponding eigenvalue is ##\lambda = -3##. Your answer to (b) is what you wrote: λ=(k-3)(k+1).

If you want to know what the possible eigenvalues of T are, think about what the allowed values of k are and what values of ##\lambda## these correspond to. Hint: If you plotted ##\lambda## vs. k, what kind of curve would you get?
 
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vela said:
Remember k represents a specific value. For each possible value of k, ekx is an eigenfunction of T. For example, if k=2, then you have f(x)=e2x, and the corresponding eigenvalue is ##\lambda = 3##.

So what are the allowed values of k and what values of ##\lambda## do these correspond to? Hint: If you plotted ##\lambda## vs. k, what kind of curve would you get?

Did you mean lambda=-3?



I would be a parabolic curve. k can be all real #s as a previous user stated. Lambda would be all real #s. But I am unsure how I would describe lambda for each eigenfunction? Lambda is a parabolic function of all real k values.
 
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pyroknife said:
Did you mean lambda=-3?
Oops, yes.

I would be a parabolic curve. k can be all real #s as a previous user stated. Lambda would be all real #s. But I am unsure how I would describe lambda for each eigenfunction? Lambda is a parabolic function of all real k values.
I edited my previous post, and it probably answers your question now.
 
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vela said:
Oops, yes.


I edited my previous post, and it probably answers your question now.

Thanks.

I guess this λ=(k-3)(k+1)=k^2-2k-3
Pretty much answers part a and b.

Since it's saying that for all k, the function f(x)=e^(kx) is an eigenfunction because k can be any real #.

For part b, lambda=k^2-2k-3

for part c, is that just a differential equation? (First time seeing a diff eq in linear algebra)

If so then the characteristic equation for it is r^2-2r-3=0
(r-3)(r+1)=0
r=-1, 3

so the 2 functions are
y(t)=Ae^(-t)
G(t)=Be^(3t)
Where A and B are constants.
 
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You can find the answer to (c) that way, but it's probably not what was intended. How might you answer (c) based on the other parts of the problem?
 

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What is an eigenfunction?

An eigenfunction is a special type of function that satisfies a certain mathematical property when it is operated on by a specific operator. In other words, it is a function that remains unchanged, up to a constant factor, when operated on by a specific operator.

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Eigenfunctions have many important applications in mathematics and science, particularly in the field of quantum mechanics. They help us to understand the behavior of physical systems and make predictions about their properties.

3. How is an eigenfunction different from a regular function?

An eigenfunction is different from a regular function in that it satisfies a specific mathematical property when operated on by an operator, whereas a regular function may not have this property.

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5. How do I plug in the f(x) equation into T(f)?

In order to plug in the f(x) equation into T(f), you must first identify the specific operator that is acting on the function. Then, you can use the definition of the operator to determine how to manipulate the function. Finally, you can substitute the f(x) equation into the appropriate place in the operator's definition. It is important to be careful with the algebraic manipulation and to double check your work to ensure accuracy.

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