Electric field of point along the central vertical axis of a triangle

In summary, the electric field at a point along the central vertical axis of a triangle is influenced by the contributions from each vertex of the triangle. The resulting electric field can be calculated by vectorially adding the electric fields produced by each charge located at the vertices. The symmetry of the triangle simplifies the calculations, particularly when considering points along the axis, as certain components of the electric field cancel out while others reinforce each other. This concept is crucial for understanding the behavior of electric fields in triangular charge configurations.
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Homework Statement
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Relevant Equations
## E = \frac {k q} {r^2} ##
## F= Eq ##
## \ddot x + \omega^2 x = 0 ##
here is my attempted solution.
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## d^2 = z^2 + \frac {L^2} {3} ##
## C ## is coulomb constant
since the point is symmetric, only the vertical component of the electric field remains. So,
$$ E = 3 E_y =3 \frac {C Q cos \theta} {d^2} $$
$$ E= 3 \frac {C Q z} {d^3} $$

thus part (a) is done ( i think).

for part (b),

the particle with mass ## m ## and charge ## -q ## is experiencing a force

$$ F = -Eq = \frac {-3 C Q q z} {d^3} $$
$$ m \ddot z + \frac {3 C Q q z} {d^3} = 0 $$
$$ \ddot z + \frac {3 C Q q z} {m d^3} = 0 $$
Comparing it with the SHM equation ,

$$ \omega^2 = \frac {k_{spring}} {m} = \frac {3 C Q q } {m d^3} $$

now we know,
$$ K_{energy} = \frac {1} {2} k_{spring} x^2$$
thus we get ,
$$ x = \sqrt{\frac {2K_{energy} d^3} {3 C Q q} } $$

Did i do it correctly??
If i did then im going to approach part (c)
 

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People will be more likely to make an effort to help you if you made an effort to put the statement of the problem where it belongs, in the template instead of in attachments.
 
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kuruman said:
People will be more likely to make an effort to help you if you made an effort to put the statement of the problem where it belongs, in the template instead of in attachments.
sorry ... Should i post a new thread on this with the statement on the template?
 
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Samir_Khalilullah said:
Homework Statement: Please see attachments.

For information, note that the question states that the reduced Planck constant (##\hbar##) is ##6.62 \times 10^{-34}## Js. That is wrong because ##\hbar = \frac h{2\pi}## and ##h=6.63 \times 10^{-34}## Js (not even ##6.62 \times 10^{-34}## Js). However the Planck constant is not required in the question!!!

It may also be worth noting that system described is unstable (c.f. a sharp pencil balanced on its tip). The negative charge will be attracted to one of the positive charges unless it is constrained to the symmetry-axis. (As explained by Earnshaw’s theorem if you want to look it up.)

Samir_Khalilullah said:
## C ## is coulomb constant
I'd stick to ##k##. It is distinguishable from ##K## and (if needed) from ##k_{spring}##.

Samir_Khalilullah said:
$$ E= 3 \frac {C Q z} {d^3} $$
thus part (a) is done ( i think).
Both ##z## and ##d## are variables. You've already said ##d^2 = z^2 + \frac {L^2} {3}##. Your equation for ##E## should be in terms of the single variable ##z##.

Samir_Khalilullah said:
for part (b),

the particle with mass ## m ## and charge ## -q ## is experiencing a force

$$ F = -Eq = \frac {-3 C Q q z} {d^3} $$
$$ m \ddot z + \frac {3 C Q q z} {d^3} = 0 $$
$$ \ddot z + \frac {3 C Q q z} {m d^3} = 0 $$
Comparing it with the SHM equation ,

$$ \omega^2 = \frac {k_{spring}} {m} = \frac {3 C Q q } {m d^3} $$
The equation for SHM needs to be in terms of a single variable, ##z##. An equation for ##\omega## should be in terms of constants, but ##d## is not a constant'

You need a differential equation with a single variable (##z##), not both ##z## and ##d##. The equation may be a little messy but when you consider small values of ##z##, you should be able to make an approximation to simplify the equation to the 'standard' SHM equation.

An alternative approach might be to consider energy conservation.

Samir_Khalilullah said:
$$ x = \sqrt{\frac {2K_{energy} d^3} {3 C Q q} } $$
You are asked for a value of ##z##, not '##x##'. And the question refers to this value as 'D'. So your final equation should start 'D =', not 'x ='.
 
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FAQ: Electric field of point along the central vertical axis of a triangle

1. What is the electric field at a point along the central vertical axis of a triangle?

The electric field at a point along the central vertical axis of a triangle is the vector sum of the electric fields produced by each charge located at the vertices of the triangle. The contributions of the electric fields from each charge can be calculated using Coulomb's law, and the resultant field is determined by considering both the magnitude and direction of each field vector.

2. How do you calculate the electric field due to a single point charge?

The electric field (E) due to a single point charge (Q) at a distance (r) from the charge is calculated using the formula E = k * |Q| / r², where k is Coulomb's constant (approximately 8.99 x 10^9 N m²/C²). The direction of the electric field is away from the charge if it is positive and towards the charge if it is negative.

3. How do the positions of the charges affect the electric field along the vertical axis?

The positions of the charges affect the electric field along the vertical axis by altering the distances from the charges to the point of interest and the angles at which the electric field vectors from each charge must be resolved. The symmetry of the triangle can lead to simplifications in the calculations, especially if the triangle is equilateral.

4. What is the significance of the central vertical axis in the context of a triangle?

The central vertical axis of a triangle is significant because it is the line of symmetry for an isosceles triangle and the axis of symmetry for an equilateral triangle. Points along this axis experience a simplified electric field due to the symmetrical arrangement of charges, which allows for easier calculation of the resultant electric field.

5. Can the electric field along the central vertical axis be zero?

Yes, the electric field along the central vertical axis can be zero at certain points, particularly if the charges are arranged symmetrically and have equal magnitudes but opposite signs. For example, in an isosceles triangle with equal positive and negative charges at the vertices, there may be a point along the vertical axis where the electric fields from the charges cancel each other out, resulting in a net electric field of zero.

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