Electric Forces and net electric force?

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The discussion revolves around a physics homework problem involving electric forces on a test charge due to a semicircular rod and point charges. The user initially struggles with understanding how the semicircular rod affects the net electric force on the test charge when a second negative charge is introduced. Clarifications are requested regarding the problem's presentation, emphasizing the need for a clear description and supporting diagrams. After revisions, the problem statement improves, making it easier for others to assist. The conversation highlights the importance of clear communication in seeking help with complex topics.
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Homework Statement


Problem # 4:[/B]
A thin semicircular rod has a total charge +Q uniformly distributed along it. A negative point charge -Q is placed as shown. A test charge +q is placed at point C. (Point C is equidistant from -Q and from all points on the rod.)

http://imgur.com/AeVfddb
upload_2017-1-27_18-50-50.png
Let FP and FR represent the force on the test Charge due to the point charge and the rod respectively.

Part C:
A second negative point charge -Q is placed as shown.

http://imgur.com/eYEOkPc
upload_2017-1-27_18-51-45.png


Is the magnitude of the net electric force on +q greater than, less than, or equal to the magnitude of the net electric force on +q in part b? Explain.

Whole Problem
http://imgur.com/VbAtlg5

Homework Equations


F = kq1q2/r2
Also basic knowledge of electric forces based on vector math and x/y - components.

The Attempt at a Solution


So I solved part b (hopefully correct), but I want to say that the magnitude of the net electric force on +q will be less than the one found in part b since the -Q charges would cancel out as they are the same distance thus same magnitude, but opposite directions. However, I am confused on how the semicircular rod affects this as it is right there between it and the -Q charge.
 
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Your problem statement is all but undecipherable. Please provide a clear, visible description of the problem that helpers can immediately see.
 
gneill said:
Your problem statement is all but undecipherable. Please provide a clear, visible description of the problem that helpers can immediately see.
Sorry, I placed the image link at the bottom rather than the top by accident. I fixed it and the link is now at the top.
 
jlmccart03 said:
Sorry, I placed the image link at the bottom rather than the top by accident. I fixed it and the link is now at the top.
Even with the image, your text description should be more complete. Helpers shouldn't have to wade through a whole scanned image to discover what the problem is about. Take the time to describe the problem in the problem statement, use attached images to provide supporting diagrams and figures.
 
gneill said:
Even with the image, your text description should be more complete. Helpers shouldn't have to wade through a whole scanned image to discover what the problem is about. Take the time to describe the problem in the problem statement, use attached images to provide supporting diagrams and figures.
Sorry to inconvenience you tonight. I don't understand the hostility, but that is besides the point. I re-did the write-up with clear directions, diagrams to support, and finally the an image of ONLY the problem to eliminate any confusion. I tried my best to set-up the problem, but clearly that was not enough. Hopefully everything I did will clarify what I need help on.
 
jlmccart03 said:
Sorry to inconvenience you tonight. I don't understand the hostility, but that is besides the point. I re-did the write-up with clear directions, diagrams to support, and finally the an image of ONLY the problem to eliminate any confusion. I tried my best to set-up the problem, but clearly that was not enough. Hopefully everything I did will clarify what I need help on.
The write up is much better now. Thanks. The idea is to make it easier for our volunteer helpers to help you.

I placed captured/cropped versions of your images in-line in the problem statement so that helpers don't have to follow off-site links to see them.
 
gneill said:
The write up is much better now. Thanks. The idea is to make it easier for our volunteer helpers to help you.

I placed captured/cropped versions of your images in-line in the problem statement so that helpers don't have to follow off-site links to see them.
Thanks, How did you do the cropped images? I tried to get it imbedded into the description, but the site didn't accept my links from imgur. Just in case for the future.
 
jlmccart03 said:
Thanks, How did you do the cropped images? I tried to get it imbedded into the description, but the site didn't accept my links from imgur. Just in case for the future.
I just used a screen image capturing tool (Windows' snipping tool) to grab the images and pasted them. I'm aware that not every software's capture to the clipboard can be pasted directly, but the snipping tool works well. You can also upload the images to the PF site via the UPLOAD icon at the lower right of the edit window. Then you can insert the images where you will in the text of the post.
 

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