Electromagnetic waves vs the laws

In summary, the law of the conservation of energy applies to the light in our universe. If yes, our universe is a closed system. If no, the universe is losing energy.
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drew737
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Does the law of the conservation of energy apply to the light in our universe?
If yes, is our universe a closed system?
If no, is our universe losing energy?
 
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the conservation of energy applies everywhere.
As far as we know, since the way you "define" the universe is the region where the spacetime is defined, yes it is a closed system. If it was an open one, you'd be able to determine that loss of energy...
I think until now, everything works fine adiabatically
 
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Global conservation of energy can't be defined for non-stationary systems like an expanding universe. However locally conservation of energy always applies.
 
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Since this universe is a closed system of energy, is the universe expanding?
If yes, is the expansion rate increasing?
If no, does the universe have a finite mass/energy?
 
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WannabeNewton said:
Global conservation of energy can't be defined for non-stationary systems like an expanding universe. However locally conservation of energy always applies.

Isn't the universe expanding adiabatically? If it does, there is no energy loss...
 
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ChrisVer said:
Yes, the universe is expanding.
The expansion rate of the universe is increasing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerating_universe)

Since the universe is accelerating at an increasing rate, will we eventually have our own isolated/closed systems when the distance between galactic masses (bound by gravity) grows to an accelerated rate beyond the speed of light?
If yes, will our new system collapse into a singularity due to contraction?
If no, would we continually lose energy from light escaping into the void between what we can see and what we can't see (our old system)?
 
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there is no matter speed greater than the speed of light, you should read the link I posted to understand what acceleration means.
What is the future of the Universe is still, if I recall well, an open question. Probably the universe will stop expanding one day and start collapsing, maybe it will keep expanding, maybe it never began and it will never cease to exist. But whatever the situation, I think we are around the critical level...
 
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drew737 said:
Since the universe is accelerating at an increasing rate, will we eventually have our own isolated/closed systems when the distance between galactic masses (bound by gravity) grows to an accelerated rate beyond the speed of light?

In the model in which the universe remains dark-energy dominated forever, yes. However, although that is the current best-fit model, our measurements are not accurate enough to rule out other possibilities, such as an eventual recollapse.

drew737 said:
If yes, will our new system collase into a singularity due to contraction?

No. First, to an extremely good approximation, the large-scale expansion of the universe does not affect systems which are gravitationally bound on smaller scales, such as galaxies, solar systems, planets, or humans. The Usenet Physics FAQ has a good article on this (including a great Woody Allen quote):

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/GR/expanding_universe.html

Second, to the extent that the large-scale expansion of the universe does have any effect, it is to make small-scale systems *less* gravitationally bound, not more.

drew737 said:
If no, would we continually lose energy from light escaping into the void between what we can see and what we can't see (our old system)?

This is happening regardless of what the universe is doing on a large scale; any system which is at a temperature greater than that of the cosmic microwave background radiation (currently 2.7K) is losing energy, on net, to the universe. But the timescales involved are very long compared to ordinary timescales.

John Baez has a good article on the *really* long term fate of ordinary objects if the universe's expansion does continue to accelerate:

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/end.html
 
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ChrisVer said:
What is the future of the Universe is still, if I recall well, an open question. Probably the universe will stop expanding one day and start collapsing, maybe it will keep expanding, maybe it never began and it will never cease to exist. But whatever the situation, I think we are around the critical level...

It is still technically an open question, because our measurements are not accurate enough to tell for certain (because we are, as you say, very close to the critical density for the universe as a whole), but as I noted in my previous post, our current best-fit model says that the universe's expansion will continue to accelerate forever.
 
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drew737 said:
Does the law of the conservation of energy apply to the light in our universe?
If yes, is our universe a closed system?
If no, is our universe losing energy?

There's a recent thread that covers these questions and includes more good info and links:
Conservation of Energy in GR
 
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drew737 said:
Since this universe is a closed system of energy, is the universe expanding?
If yes, is the expansion rate increasing?
If no, does the universe have a finite mass/energy?
1. You assume facts not in evidence.
2. Irrelevant. The universe can expand at any rate it desires, regardless if it is finite or infinite.
3. Assuming the universe is finite, the answer is definitely yes.
 

FAQ: Electromagnetic waves vs the laws

1. What are electromagnetic waves?

Electromagnetic waves are a type of energy that travels through space at the speed of light. They are created by the movement of electrically charged particles and consist of oscillating electric and magnetic fields.

2. What are the laws governing electromagnetic waves?

The laws governing electromagnetic waves are the laws of electromagnetism, specifically Maxwell's equations. These laws describe the relationship between electric and magnetic fields, and how they interact with each other and with charged particles.

3. How do electromagnetic waves differ from other types of waves?

Unlike mechanical waves, such as sound waves, electromagnetic waves do not require a medium to travel through. They can travel through empty space and can even travel through a vacuum. Additionally, electromagnetic waves have a wide range of frequencies, including radio waves, microwaves, infrared, visible light, ultraviolet, x-rays, and gamma rays.

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Electromagnetic waves have numerous practical applications, including communication technologies like radio, television, and cell phones. They also play a crucial role in medical imaging, such as x-rays and MRI scans. Other applications include microwave ovens, infrared sensors, and solar panels.

5. How are the laws of electromagnetism used in everyday life?

The laws of electromagnetism are used in various everyday devices, such as electric motors, generators, and transformers. They are also essential in the functioning of electronic devices, such as computers and smartphones. Additionally, these laws are used in the production of electricity through power plants and renewable energy sources, such as wind turbines and hydroelectric dams.

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