Electrons exposed to time-dependent force

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of momentum in a metal, specifically how a force acting on an electron with momentum p(t) will affect the momentum at a later time (t+dt). The text suggests that this change in momentum can be approximated by f(t)dt plus another term on the order of dt*dt. The question arises about where this dt^2 term comes from and how it relates to Newton's second law. It is explained that the term comes from the derivative of the force, which is not necessarily constant in time. The conversation concludes by stating that Newton's second law is just the limit when dt goes to zero, and thus agrees with the result of f(t)dt.
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I have begun studying Ashcroft + Mermin on my own, and am trying to follow the math in the text. They suggest that an electron in a metal with some momentum p(t) and exposed to a force f(t) will at some time later (t+dt) have a contribution to the momentum on the order of f(t)dt plus another term on the order of dt*dt. My question is where does this dt^2 term enter? My instinct is to say that F=dp/dt, and that the change in momentum can then be given (very simplistically?) by f(t)dt. Obviously, a form of f(t) and an integral is in order, but I cannot see the logic of what is stated in the text.

Any and all help or guidance on the matter would be greatly appreciated!
 
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The term of order dt^2 comes from the fact that f(t) is not necessarily constant in time. It is related to the derivative of f(t).
 
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Orodruin said:
The term of order dt^2 comes from the fact that f(t) is not necessarily constant in time. It is related to the derivative of f(t).
Why does this matter, though? I would think Newton's 2nd law would be used, and then a change in the momentum would simply be given by f(t)dt. I'm not sure what else should be done to lead to anything else.
 
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It is just using Newton's second law, but Newton's second law is just the limit when dt goes to zero and so agrees with your result.
 
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I figured it out I think. If the force at t+dt is instead expressed using a first-order approximated taylor series, then the extra dt comes out.
 

FAQ: Electrons exposed to time-dependent force

What is a time-dependent force?

A time-dependent force is a force that changes over time. This can be in the form of a varying electric field, magnetic field, or other external force that acts on an object.

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