Elementary Algebraic Geometry - D&F Section 15.1 - Exercise 15

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The discussion revolves around Exercise 15 from Dummit and Foote's Elementary Algebraic Geometry, specifically addressing the ideal \mathcal{I}(V) for the set V = {(0,0), (1,1)} over the field \mathbb{F}_2. Participants clarify that the product ideal m_1m_2, where m_1 = (x,y) and m_2 = (x-1,y-1), consists of sums of elements formed by multiplying elements from m_1 and m_2. The nature of elements in these ideals is discussed, with m_1 containing expressions of the form αx + βy, and m_2 having a similar structure. The conversation emphasizes the importance of correctly defining the elements of these ideals in the context of algebraic geometry. Overall, the thread provides insights into the structure of ideals in this mathematical framework.
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Dummit and Foote (D&F), Ch15, Section 15.1, Exercise 15 reads as follows:

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If k = \mathbb{F}_2 and V = \{ (0,0), (1,1) \} \subset \mathbb{A}^2,

show that \mathcal{I} (V) is the product ideal m_1m_2

where m_1 = (x,y) and m_2 = (x -1, y-1).

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I am having trouble getting started on this problem.

One issue/problem I have is - what is the exact nature of m_1, m_2 and m_1m_2. What (explicitly) are the nature of the elements of these ideals.

I would appreciate some help and guidance.

Peter



Note: D&F define \mathcal{I} (V) as follows:

\mathcal{I} (V) = \{ f \in k(x_1, x_2, ... , x_n) \ | \ f(a_1, a_2, ... , a_n) = 0 \ \ \forall \ \ (a_1, a_2, ... , a_n) \in V \}
 
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The ideal ##m_1m_2## is generated by ##\{xy~\vert~x\in m_1,y\in m_2\}##. So ##m_1m_2## consists of sums of these elements.

Is this what you wanted to know?
 
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Thanks R136a1

Can you also specify what the elements of m_1 and m_2 look like?

Thanks Again,

Peter
 
Elements of ##m_1## have the form

\alpha x + \beta y

for ##\alpha,\beta\in \mathbb{F}_2##. Analogous for ##m_2##.
 
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Thanks R136a1

Just reflecting on your reply.

Given the context of this exercise (algebraic geometry) and the definition of

\mathcal{I} (V) as follows:

\mathcal{I} (V) = \{ f \in k(x_1, x_2, ... , x_n) \ | \ f(a_1, a_2, ... , a_n) = 0 \ \ \forall \ \ (a_1, a_2, ... , a_n) \in V \}

would it be more accurate to (following our lead) to define the elements of (x,y) as

f_1x + f_2y

where f_1, f_2 \in \mathbb{F}_2[x,y]

What do you think?

Peter
 
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Yes, of course. What was I thinking...
 
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