Eotvos effect - Apparent only?

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In summary, the Eotvos effect is a consequence of using a non-inertial reference frame, specifically one that is fixed to a rotating object such as the Earth. It is the vertical component of the total Coriolis effect and is important to consider in certain contexts, such as external ballistics. However, it can be accounted for by introducing inertial forces in Newton's second law when performing calculations in a non-inertial frame.
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Hi all,

To get straight to the point of my question, is the Eotvos effect purely an 'apparent' effect?
i.e. it only arises if you choose a biased reference frame that is fixed to the surface of a rotating object (in our case the spinning surface of the earth)?

From my understanding of the article that I read on Wikipedia, it seems like it would only be worth discussing if your frame of reference is on a spinning surface relative to some other absolute coordinate system...is that roughly a valid statement, if not, what is incorrect about that statement?

Somewhat further to that (/as a refinement of the above), is it in any way incorrect to state that the Eotvos effect is actually completely accounted for if you correctly account for the Coriolis Effect? (the latitudinal component of the Coriolis effect in particular?)
...It seems to me that the East-West latitudinal component of the Coriolis effect is really just another way of expressing the Eotvos Effect - or vice versa - when your frame of reference is fixed to a spinning object, all of which is being measured against some fixed coordinate system...

FYI: I ask this question from the context of external ballistics, which is to say that it is related to correcting for the trajectory of a projectile when fired from (and hopefully intercepting) another location on the Earth's surface.

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Simple_One said:
it only arises if you choose a biased reference frame that is fixed to the surface of a rotating object (in our case the spinning surface of the earth)?
Yes, it's the consequence of using a non-inertial reference frame. See also:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fictitious_force

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...It seems to me that the East-West latitudinal component of the Coriolis effect is really just another way of expressing the Eotvos Effect
No. The Eötvös effect is the vertical (surface normal) component of the total Coriolis effect. In some contexts "Coriolis effect" refers only to the horizontal components, and the vertical is called Eötvös.

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I ask this question from the context of external ballistics, which is to say that it is related to correcting for the trajectory of a projectile when fired from (and hopefully intercepting) another location on the Earth's surface.
If you want to do your ballistic computations in the non-inertial frame of the Earth, but still use Newtons 2nd Law, you have to introduce inertial forces:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotating_reference_frame#Newton.27s_second_law_in_the_two_frames

Note that there is no Eötvös force in the above formulas. It is included in the Coriolis force
 
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Okay, thanks very much for the clarification.
 

FAQ: Eotvos effect - Apparent only?

1. What is the Eotvos effect?

The Eotvos effect, also known as the Eotvos-Dicke-Bragg effect, is a phenomenon where objects experience a slight change in their weight when they are in motion.

2. How is the Eotvos effect measured?

The Eotvos effect is measured by comparing the weight of an object at rest to its weight when it is in motion. The difference in weight is typically very small, around 1 part in 100 million.

3. What causes the Eotvos effect?

The Eotvos effect is caused by the difference in gravitational forces between the Earth's equator and poles. This is due to the Earth's rotation, which causes a slight flattening at the poles and a bulging at the equator.

4. Is the Eotvos effect significant?

The Eotvos effect is a very small effect and is usually only noticeable in highly sensitive experiments. However, it is important to consider when conducting experiments that require precise measurements, such as in physics or geodesy.

5. Can the Eotvos effect be eliminated?

The Eotvos effect cannot be completely eliminated, as it is a natural consequence of the Earth's rotation. However, its impact can be minimized by conducting experiments at the Earth's poles or by using advanced equipment and techniques to account for it.

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