Equation for a circle plugging for x and y, not getting a

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In summary, the conversation is about finding the value of a in a circle equation that is tangent to the y-axis at point A(0,3). The person asking for help has made some errors in their working and the other person is guiding them towards the correct solution. They discuss the concept of expanding and simplifying expressions and how it can lead to different results depending on the approach taken. Eventually, the problem is solved and the correct answer is found.
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You're making some errors in your working that need to be cleared up first.
You had [tex](0-a)^2[/tex] to compute, and this should quickly be seen as [tex](-a)^2=a^2[/tex] but instead you've gone through a longer route and forgot that [tex](-a)(-a)=a^2[/tex] and not [tex]-a^2[/tex]
Secondly, you expanded [tex](3-3)^2=(3-3)(3-3)=9-9-9+9=0[/tex] You most definitely don't need to do all this work! Notice 3-3=0 so (3-3)2=0.

Once you clear up these problems, you should arrive at a correct answer.
 
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I'm going through the longer route because I don't have the mathematical insight you have. I need to compute things to actually see their result. My brain is not fused together with a calculator neuro-recepto-device like yours!

The fact that I automatically "need to know" what the result is doesn't give me a different answer, though. But regardless, without actually writing it down I can't tell. I'm not you.
 
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Whether I have a neuro-recepto-device or not (does wolfram alpha count? :-p) it isn't needed to see things more clearly. You just need to understand what the math is telling you and get out of the habit of doing what you've done so many times before. You shouldn't look at a square of a sum and think "oh I need to expand because that's what I've done every other time", take a closer look at what you're doing.

(a+b)2 means add a and b together, then square them. Another expression for this (without adding first then squaring) is a2+2ab+b2. Now, both work because they're equivalent, but sometimes one is easier and more useful to use than another. For (3-3)2, you don't want to be using the second expression to solve this, because 3-3 can be computed really easily!

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Oh sorry I forgot to address this point

Femme_physics said:
The fact that I automatically "need to know" what the result is doesn't give me a different answer, though.

It should give you a different answer because [tex](0-a)^2=a^2[/tex] and you had [tex]-a^2[/tex]
 
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But, should I really get a different result in the shorter way? It doesn't seem to matter how I go about expanding and simplifying the expression, it boils down to that which I've written in the 4th line
 
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Your fourth line is [tex]-a^2=a^2+16a+64[/tex] and I'm telling you it's [tex]a^2=a^2+16a+64[/tex]. Don't you see the difference? This one is very easy to solve, no quadratics :wink:
 
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Ah, I didn't switch the signs! *smacks forehead* I'm an idiot. Thanks :)
 
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No worries :smile:
 

FAQ: Equation for a circle plugging for x and y, not getting a

What is the equation for a circle in terms of x and y?

The equation for a circle in terms of x and y is (x - h)^2 + (y - k)^2 = r^2, where (h,k) represents the center of the circle and r represents the radius.

How do I solve for x and y in a circle equation?

To solve for x and y in a circle equation, you can use the Pythagorean theorem to find the distance between the center of the circle and any point on the circle. Then, use this distance and the coordinates of the center to set up and solve a system of equations to find the values of x and y.

What does the coefficient of x and y represent in a circle equation?

The coefficient of x and y in a circle equation represents the distance between the center of the circle and the x- and y-axes, respectively. This distance is also known as the radius of the circle.

Why do I need to use the equation for a circle?

The equation for a circle is useful for many applications in mathematics and science. It allows you to describe and analyze circular shapes and their properties, such as their circumference, area, and position in a coordinate system.

What are some real-life examples of using the equation for a circle?

The equation for a circle is used in many fields, such as engineering, physics, and astronomy. Some examples include calculating the trajectory of a satellite orbiting the Earth, designing circular structures like bridges or wheels, and determining the distance between two points on a map using latitude and longitude coordinates.

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