Evaluating $m^4-18m^2-8m$ Given $p,\,q,\,r$

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In summary, the given expression is a polynomial with four terms and a fourth degree monomial. It can be evaluated by substituting specific values for the variables and its degree is 4. However, it cannot be factored and to graph it, you can plot points by substituting different values for $m$ and connecting them to form a curve.
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Let $p,\,q,\,r$ be the roots of $x^3-9x^2+11x-1=0$ and let $m=\sqrt{p}+\sqrt{q}+\sqrt{r}$.

Evaluate $m^4-18m^2-8m$.
 
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Re: Find m^4-18m^2-8m

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Let $p,\,q,\,r$ be the roots of $x^3-9x^2+11x-1=0$ and let $m=\sqrt{p}+\sqrt{q}+\sqrt{r}$.

Evaluate $m^4-18m^2-8m$.

We have

$\displaystyle m^2 = p + q + r + 2(\sqrt{pq} + \sqrt{qr} + \sqrt{rp}) = 9 + 2(\sqrt{pq} + \sqrt{qr} + \sqrt{rp})$.

Thus

$\displaystyle (m^2-9)^2 = 4[pq + qr + rp + 2(\sqrt{p(pqr)} + \sqrt{q(pqr)} + \sqrt{r(pqr)})]$
$\displaystyle = 4[11 + 2(\sqrt{p} + \sqrt{q} + \sqrt{r})]$
$\displaystyle = 44 + 8m$.

Since $(m^2 - 9)^2 = m^4 - 18m^2 + 81$, we obtain $m^4 - 18m^2 + 81 = 44 + 8m$, or

$\displaystyle m^4 -18m^2 - 8m = -37$.
 
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Awesome, Euge! Thanks for your solution and thanks for participating!:)
 

FAQ: Evaluating $m^4-18m^2-8m$ Given $p,\,q,\,r$

What is the general form of the expression $m^4-18m^2-8m$?

The general form of this expression is $m^4-18m^2-8m$. It is a polynomial expression with four terms, with the highest degree term being a fourth degree monomial.

How can I evaluate this expression given specific values for $p,\,q,\,r$?

To evaluate this expression, you can substitute the given values for $p,\,q,\,r$ into the expression. For example, if the values are $p=2,\,q=3,\,r=4$, the expression would become $2^4-18(2)^2-8(2) = 16-72-16 = -72$.

What is the degree of this polynomial expression?

The degree of this polynomial expression is 4, since it has a fourth degree term.

Can this expression be factored?

No, this expression cannot be factored into simpler terms. It is already in its simplest form.

How can I graph this expression?

To graph this expression, you can plot points by substituting different values for $m$ and finding the corresponding value of the expression. This will give you points that can be plotted on a graph, and you can connect these points to form a curve that represents the expression.

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