Evaluating Sum Compute: n+1 Roots

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In summary, the conversation revolves around computing a series of square roots and the realization that the problem actually asks for the floor of the sum.
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Compute \(\displaystyle \sqrt[n+1]{\frac{n+1}{n}}+\sqrt[n]{\frac{n}{n-1}}+\cdots+\sqrt[4]{\frac{4}{3}}+\sqrt[3]{\frac{3}{2}}+\sqrt{2}\).
 
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anemone said:
Compute \(\displaystyle \sqrt[n+1]{\frac{n+1}{n}}+\sqrt[n]{\frac{n}{n-1}}+\cdots+\sqrt[4]{\frac{4}{3}}+\sqrt[3]{\frac{3}{2}}+\sqrt{2}=S\).
it should be :
for any $n$
$n<S<n+1$
 
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Albert said:
it should be :
for any $n$
$n<S<n+1$

Ops! You're right, and the problem is actually asked to compute \(\displaystyle
\left\lfloor{\sqrt[n+1]{\frac{n+1}{n}}+\sqrt[n]{\frac{n}{n-1}}+\cdots+\sqrt[4]{\frac{4}{3}}+\sqrt[3]{\frac{3}{2}}+\sqrt{2}}\right\rfloor\).:eek:
 
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anemone said:
Ops! You're right, and the problem is actually asked to compute \(\displaystyle
\left\lfloor{\sqrt[n+1]{\frac{n+1}{n}}+\sqrt[n]{\frac{n}{n-1}}+\cdots+\sqrt[4]{\frac{4}{3}}+\sqrt[3]{\frac{3}{2}}+\sqrt{2}}\right\rfloor\).:eek:

We have for t positive integer
$(1+x)^{t+1} > 1 + x(t+1)$
or $(1+x) > \sqrt[t+1]{1 + x(t+1)}$
putting $x = \frac{1}{t(t+1)}$ we get
$1+\frac{1}{t(t+1)} > \sqrt[t+1]{1 + \frac{1}{t}}$
or $1+\frac{1}{t(t+1)} > \sqrt[t+1]{\frac{t+1}{t}}$
or $1+\frac{1}{t} - \frac{1}{t+1} > \sqrt[t+1]{\frac{t+1}{t}}$
adding the above from t = 1 to n we get
${\sqrt[n+1]{\frac{n+1}{n}}+\sqrt[n]{\frac{n}{n-1}}+\cdots+\sqrt[4]{\frac{4}{3}}+\sqrt[3]{\frac{3}{2}}+\sqrt{2}} <n + 1 - \frac{1}{n+1}$
as each term is greater than one we have
${\sqrt[n+1]{\frac{n+1}{n}}+\sqrt[n]{\frac{n}{n-1}}+\cdots+\sqrt[4]{\frac{4}{3}}+\sqrt[3]{\frac{3}{2}}+\sqrt{2}} > n $
as the value is between n and n + 1 so
$\left\lfloor{\sqrt[n+1]{\frac{n+1}{n}}+\sqrt[n]{\frac{n}{n-1}}+\cdots+\sqrt[4]{\frac{4}{3}}+\sqrt[3]{\frac{3}{2}}+\sqrt{2}}\right\rfloor = n $
 
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kaliprasad said:
We have for t positive integer
$(1+x)^{t+1} > 1 + x(t+1)$
or $(1+x) > \sqrt[t+1]{1 + x(t+1)}$
putting $x = \frac{1}{t(t+1)}$ we get
$1+\frac{1}{t(t+1)} > \sqrt[t+1]{1 + \frac{1}{t}}$
or $1+\frac{1}{t(t+1)} > \sqrt[t+1]{\frac{t+1}{t}}$
or $1+\frac{1}{t} - \frac{1}{t+1} > \sqrt[t+1]{\frac{t+1}{t}}$
adding the above from t = 1 to n we get
${\sqrt[n+1]{\frac{n+1}{n}}+\sqrt[n]{\frac{n}{n-1}}+\cdots+\sqrt[4]{\frac{4}{3}}+\sqrt[3]{\frac{3}{2}}+\sqrt{2}} <n + 1 - \frac{1}{n+1}$
as each term is greater than one we have
${\sqrt[n+1]{\frac{n+1}{n}}+\sqrt[n]{\frac{n}{n-1}}+\cdots+\sqrt[4]{\frac{4}{3}}+\sqrt[3]{\frac{3}{2}}+\sqrt{2}} > n $
as the value is between n and n + 1 so
$\left\lfloor{\sqrt[n+1]{\frac{n+1}{n}}+\sqrt[n]{\frac{n}{n-1}}+\cdots+\sqrt[4]{\frac{4}{3}}+\sqrt[3]{\frac{3}{2}}+\sqrt{2}}\right\rfloor = n $

I privately told anemone that the answer was $n$, but I was told I must show my work. (Crying)
 
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kaliprasad said:
We have for t positive integer
$(1+x)^{t+1} > 1 + x(t+1)$
or $(1+x) > \sqrt[t+1]{1 + x(t+1)}$
putting $x = \frac{1}{t(t+1)}$ we get
$1+\frac{1}{t(t+1)} > \sqrt[t+1]{1 + \frac{1}{t}}$
or $1+\frac{1}{t(t+1)} > \sqrt[t+1]{\frac{t+1}{t}}$
or $1+\frac{1}{t} - \frac{1}{t+1} > \sqrt[t+1]{\frac{t+1}{t}}$
adding the above from t = 1 to n we get
${\sqrt[n+1]{\frac{n+1}{n}}+\sqrt[n]{\frac{n}{n-1}}+\cdots+\sqrt[4]{\frac{4}{3}}+\sqrt[3]{\frac{3}{2}}+\sqrt{2}} <n + 1 - \frac{1}{n+1}$
as each term is greater than one we have
${\sqrt[n+1]{\frac{n+1}{n}}+\sqrt[n]{\frac{n}{n-1}}+\cdots+\sqrt[4]{\frac{4}{3}}+\sqrt[3]{\frac{3}{2}}+\sqrt{2}} > n $
as the value is between n and n + 1 so
$\left\lfloor{\sqrt[n+1]{\frac{n+1}{n}}+\sqrt[n]{\frac{n}{n-1}}+\cdots+\sqrt[4]{\frac{4}{3}}+\sqrt[3]{\frac{3}{2}}+\sqrt{2}}\right\rfloor = n $

Very well done, kaliprasad!(Cool)
 

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What is the purpose of evaluating sum compute: n+1 Roots?

The purpose of evaluating sum compute: n+1 Roots is to find the sum of the square roots of a given set of numbers, plus one additional root. This can be used in various mathematical and scientific calculations.

How is the sum of n+1 Roots calculated?

The sum of n+1 Roots is calculated by first finding the square root of each number in the given set, then adding them together. Finally, one additional root is added to the sum.

Are there any limitations to using the n+1 Roots method?

Yes, there are limitations to using the n+1 Roots method. This method is only applicable to real numbers and cannot be used for complex numbers. Additionally, the accuracy of the results may vary depending on the precision of the square root calculations.

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