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So, every field contains a 'copy' of Z_p. I'm a bit confused by this.
F is a field so it has characteristic p, and therefore contains a copy of the field Z_p.
Here are some of my thoughts, are they correct? Do you have anything to add? (I'm trying to see a bigger picture here!):
-The character of Z_p refers to the amount of times you need to add the multiplicative identity to itself to get to the additive identity, zero.
-If |F| = p^n, then F* is a group with p^n - 1 elements. Is |Z_p| = p, and is Z_p* a group with p-1 elements? The * means we are taking all non-units, so in this case the only thing we are taking out is the zero.
Ah so I had a slight tangent there, back to the main point (sorry this post isn't extremely coherent but any reply to any part of the post is very appreciated and useful to me).
Let's say F is a field with character 3 and 3^3 elements. Character 3 means any element multiplied by 3 will return zero.
Let's list the elements of F in order of smallest to largest: {0 1 a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y}.(Can we even order the elements some smallest to largest in this case? I think so...)
Now, I'm trying to figure out what elements the Z_3 sub field of F would contain. would it be {g p y} because those are the 9th, 18th and 27th elements? Well that can't be, it's a subfield so we need to include the same multiplicative and additive identities as the original field, right? So would the elements of Z_3 be {0, 1, and some other thing}?
Anyway, if anyone can shed some light on my incoherent rambling that'd be appreciated. Thank you all for the great help you've been.
F is a field so it has characteristic p, and therefore contains a copy of the field Z_p.
Here are some of my thoughts, are they correct? Do you have anything to add? (I'm trying to see a bigger picture here!):
-The character of Z_p refers to the amount of times you need to add the multiplicative identity to itself to get to the additive identity, zero.
-If |F| = p^n, then F* is a group with p^n - 1 elements. Is |Z_p| = p, and is Z_p* a group with p-1 elements? The * means we are taking all non-units, so in this case the only thing we are taking out is the zero.
Ah so I had a slight tangent there, back to the main point (sorry this post isn't extremely coherent but any reply to any part of the post is very appreciated and useful to me).
Let's say F is a field with character 3 and 3^3 elements. Character 3 means any element multiplied by 3 will return zero.
Let's list the elements of F in order of smallest to largest: {0 1 a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y}.(Can we even order the elements some smallest to largest in this case? I think so...)
Now, I'm trying to figure out what elements the Z_3 sub field of F would contain. would it be {g p y} because those are the 9th, 18th and 27th elements? Well that can't be, it's a subfield so we need to include the same multiplicative and additive identities as the original field, right? So would the elements of Z_3 be {0, 1, and some other thing}?
Anyway, if anyone can shed some light on my incoherent rambling that'd be appreciated. Thank you all for the great help you've been.