Evidence that electron is a point particle?

In summary, most physicists assume that electrons, photons, etc are point particles with no internal structure. However, this assumption is based on limited evidence and is highly speculative.
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Most theories (/ when doing experiments we) assume that the electron, quark, etc are really point particles.

What is the evidence for this? I don't think, for example, that experiments at cern convey that they are. They could have an internal structure with a stronger force than the strong force keeping it all intact, for example. Is the point that it does not matter if they have internal structure or not? Or (similarly) that we will never be able to find out if it has internal structure or not due to energy limitations in physical experiments?
 
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There is no experimental evidence as yet that they have internal structure, nor is there any compelling theoretical reason to assume that they do (for example, like most physicists assuming for 25 years that neutrinos existed, before they were actually detected, in order to preserve conservation of energy and momentum in beta decay).

Therefore most physicists assume provisionally that they have no internal structure, except of course for those theorists who are working on string theory and other speculative approaches to deeper unification of particle physics.

All physical theories are like this, by the way. We just don't say so explicitly very often, because it would be tiresome to qualify every statement with something like "to the best of our knowledge, subject to future experimental evidence and/or theoretical developments."
 
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Can someone provide examples of experiments that show electrons, photons, etc as point particles.
 
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No experiment can really show they are "points" since points have no physical extent. There are experiments which limit the upper bound of the electron radius though. I'm sure you can find those.
 
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1) All scattering cross sections of electrons with some other stuff (positrons, protons, ...) can be explained using theoretical models (QED, ...) where electrons do not have any internal structure. Of course this may be due to the limited energy range and could be proven wrong at (much) higher energies, but ...

2) ... if electrons have an internal structure then they must be bound VERY tightly (b/c otherwise it would have been possible to break them in constituents; b/c of the tininess
of the electrons one would expect that an electron as bound state would have VERY large mass, so in addition to the problem of the electron as a bound state one has to face to problem to explain its small mass; that could e.g. be due to an unknown 'Goldstone-like" mechanism for a spontaneously broken symmetry which creates massles fermions instead of bosons.

I think that all this is highly speculative; as long as there are no indications for a substructure in the sense of 1) we should not care about 2)
 

FAQ: Evidence that electron is a point particle?

What is the evidence that supports the idea that electrons are point particles?

The main evidence for the point particle nature of electrons comes from experiments such as scattering experiments, which show that electrons behave like particles with no internal structure. Additionally, the concept of electron spin, which is a fundamental property of point particles, has been confirmed through various experiments.

How does the concept of wave-particle duality relate to the idea of electrons as point particles?

The concept of wave-particle duality states that particles, including electrons, can exhibit both wave-like and particle-like behavior. While electrons have properties that are similar to waves, such as diffraction and interference, they also display behaviors that are characteristic of point particles, such as their discrete energy levels and spin. This suggests that electrons can be considered as both waves and point particles.

Can electrons be divided into smaller components?

No, according to the currently accepted model of the atom, electrons are considered to be fundamental particles with no internal structure. This means that they cannot be divided into smaller components and are considered to be point particles.

How does the concept of charge affect the idea of electrons as point particles?

Electrons are known to carry a negative charge, and this charge is considered to be a fundamental property of point particles. The charge of an electron is always the same, regardless of its energy or motion, further supporting the idea that electrons are point particles.

Are there any alternative theories to the idea of electrons as point particles?

Yes, there have been various alternative theories proposed, such as the string theory, which suggests that particles like electrons are actually tiny vibrating strings. However, the point particle model is currently the most widely accepted and supported by experimental evidence.

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