Excellent question: A=infinity, V=pi?

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In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of the area under 1/x being infinity, while the volume of 1/x rotated around the x-axis is equal to pi. This leads to the question of how this can be true, with one person offering an explanation of circles having smaller volumes compared to their surface area. The conversation also mentions the concept of a mathematical object with a finite volume but an infinite surface area, known as Gabriel's Horn.
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My professor posed a brain teaser question today, and I can't get it out of my mind. I was hoping the forum can help me make sense of it.

Area under 1/x = infinity:
[tex]A = \int_{1}^{\infty} (1/x)dx[/tex]
[tex]A = \lim_{t\rightarrow \infty} \int_{1}^{t} (1/x)dx[/tex]
[tex]A = \lim_{t\rightarrow \infty} \ln t - \ln 1[/tex]
[tex]A = \infty[/tex]

but the volume of 1/x rotated around the x-axis is equal to pi
[tex]V = \pi \int_{1}^{\infty} (1/x)^2dx[/tex]
[tex]V = \pi \lim_{t\rightarrow \infty} \int_{1}^{t} (1/x)^2dx[/tex]
[tex]= \pi \lim_{t\rightarrow \infty} (-1/t + 1/1)[/tex]
[tex]= \pi (1)[/tex]

How can this be true?
 
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Well, one way to break down your intuitive opposition to it is that for circles with small radii, pi times the square of the radius is smaller than the radius itself.
 
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silverdiesel said:
How can this be true?
Why can't it be true :wink: ?

It seems that popularly said, it is perfectly possible to create a mathematical 'object' with a finite volume but an infinite surface area (which is 2*pi times the integral you calculated first).
 
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See .[/URL] Especially the paragraph about the "paradox" that you could fill this shape with a finite amount of paint, but cover an infinite surface area.
 
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The solid of revolution formed by rotating y=1/x about the x-axis from x=1 to infinity is called Gabriel's Horn.
 

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