Expectation Value of Composite System

In summary, the system has a spin of 1/2 and the state of each particle is a linear combination of the states of the other particles.
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Sci
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Homework Statement


System of 2 particles with spin 1/2. Let
[tex]
\vert + \rangle =
\begin{pmatrix}
0 \\
1
\end{pmatrix} \\
\vert - \rangle =
\begin{pmatrix}
1 \\
0
\end{pmatrix}
[/tex]

singlet state [tex]
\vert \Phi \rangle = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} \Big( \vert + \rangle \otimes \vert - \rangle - \vert - \rangle \otimes \vert + \rangle \Big)
[/tex]
observables:
[tex]
(2 \vec{a} \vec{S}^1) \otimes 1 \\
(2 \vec{a} \vec{S}^1) \otimes (2 \vec{b} \vec{S}^2)
[/tex]
for arbitraty a,b

Homework Equations


[tex]
S_x^i=
\begin{pmatrix}
0 & 1\\
1 & 0
\end{pmatrix}
[/tex]
and similar for S_y and S_z

The Attempt at a Solution


I have to calculate
[tex]
\langle \Phi \vert(2 \vec{a} \vec{S}^1) \otimes 1 \vert \Phi \rangle
[/tex]
in the first task. Does the tensor product notation of Phi means that particle A is in state + and particle B is in state - or the other way round?
Does the 1 in the observable means that the state of B is simply ignored in the meaurement?
So does the first case simplify to
[tex]
\langle + \vert a_1 \hat S_x +a_2 \hat S_y +a_3 \hat S_z \vert + \rangle -
\langle - \vert a_1 \hat S_x +a_2 \hat S_y +a_3 \hat S_z \vert - \rangle
[/tex]
and the expectation value becomes zero, as expected for the singlet state
 
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Sci said:
Does the tensor product notation of Phi means that particle A is in state + and particle B is in state - or the other way round?

The state ##|+\rangle \otimes |-\rangle## is the state with the first particle in the + state and the second particle in the - state. The singlet state ##|\Phi\rangle## that you have is a linear combination of ##|+\rangle \otimes |-\rangle## and ##|-\rangle \otimes |+\rangle##.

Sci said:
Does the 1 in the observable means that the state of B is simply ignored in the meaurement?

In general:
$$
(\hat A\otimes \hat B)(|a\rangle \otimes |b\rangle) = (\hat A |a\rangle) \otimes (\hat B |b\rangle).
$$
This should help you solve your problem.
 
  • #3
Thank you!
I am still confused about the basic rules
[tex]
(\langle + \vert \otimes \langle - \vert )( \vec{S} \vec{a} \otimes 1 ) (\vert + \rangle \otimes \vert - \rangle ) \\
-(\langle + \vert \otimes \langle - \vert )( \vec{S} \vec{a} \otimes 1 ) (\vert - \rangle \otimes \vert + \rangle )\\
-(\langle - \vert \otimes \langle + \vert )( \vec{S} \vec{a} \otimes 1 ) (\vert + \rangle \otimes \vert - \rangle )\\
+(\langle - \vert \otimes \langle + \vert )( \vec{S} \vec{a} \otimes 1 ) (\vert - \rangle \otimes \vert + \rangle )
[/tex]
using your rule
[tex]
(\langle + \vert \otimes \langle - \vert )( \vec{S} \vec{a}\vert + \rangle \otimes 1\vert - \rangle ) + others
[/tex]
can I do the following step;
[tex]
(\langle + \vert \vec{S} \vec{a}\vert + \rangle \otimes \langle - \vert 1 \vert - \rangle) + others
[/tex]

the tensor product doesn't mke sense here...
 
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When taking the inner product between two states, you simply get the product of the inner products on the separate spaces:
$$
(\langle a'|\otimes\langle b'|)(|a\rangle\otimes |b\rangle)
= \langle a'|a\rangle \langle b'|b\rangle
$$
There is no need to keep the tensor product and as you say it makes little sense to do so.

Edit: that said, you are otherwise on the right track.
 
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I would first clarify the notation used in the problem. The tensor product notation in this case means that the two particles are in separate states, with the first particle in state + and the second particle in state -. The 1 in the observable means that the second particle's state is not involved in the measurement, so the expectation value simplifies to just the first particle's state.

Based on this, the expectation value calculation becomes:

\langle \Phi \vert (2 \vec{a} \vec{S}^1) \otimes 1 \vert \Phi \rangle = \langle + \vert a_1 \hat{S}_x + a_2 \hat{S}_y + a_3 \hat{S}_z \vert + \rangle = 0

This is expected for the singlet state, as it represents a state where the two particles are entangled and their individual states cannot be determined. The second observable, (2 \vec{a} \vec{S}^1) \otimes (2 \vec{b} \vec{S}^2), will also result in an expectation value of 0.

In summary, the expectation value of the composite system in the singlet state is 0 for both observables, as expected. This shows that the two particles are entangled and their individual states cannot be measured independently.
 

FAQ: Expectation Value of Composite System

What is the expectation value of a composite system?

The expectation value of a composite system is the average value of a physical quantity that is measured on a composite system. It is calculated by multiplying the probability of obtaining a specific measurement of the physical quantity with that measurement, and then summing up all the possible outcomes. It gives an idea of the most likely value that will be obtained for the physical quantity when the composite system is measured.

How is the expectation value of a composite system related to the individual expectation values of its components?

The expectation value of a composite system is related to the individual expectation values of its components by the principle of linearity, which states that the expectation value of a sum of two or more quantities is equal to the sum of their individual expectation values. This means that the expectation value of a composite system can be calculated by summing up the expectation values of its components weighted by their respective probabilities.

Can the expectation value of a composite system be negative?

Yes, the expectation value of a composite system can be negative. This can happen when the measurements of the physical quantity on the composite system have a higher probability of resulting in negative values. For example, in a quantum system, the expectation value of an observable with both positive and negative values can be negative if the probabilities of obtaining negative values are higher.

How does the uncertainty principle affect the calculation of the expectation value of a composite system?

The uncertainty principle states that it is impossible to know the exact values of certain physical quantities simultaneously. This can affect the calculation of the expectation value of a composite system as it may introduce some uncertainty in the measurement of the physical quantity. This uncertainty can be taken into account by using the concept of standard deviation, which measures the spread of the possible outcomes around the expectation value.

Is the expectation value of a composite system affected by the state of its components?

Yes, the expectation value of a composite system is affected by the state of its components. This is because the probabilities of obtaining different measurements of the physical quantity depend on the state of the composite system. For example, in a quantum system, the probabilities of obtaining different measurements of an observable can be influenced by the state of the system, such as its energy level or spin orientation.

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