Experimenting with Water and Magnet: Comments Welcome

In summary, the conversation discusses the possibility of conducting an experiment on water and magnet for a research paper. The initial idea was to drop a strong magnet into water from a specific height and record the height of the "jumping" water upon landing. However, it was pointed out that pure water would not react to a magnetic field and the experiment was not feasible. The conversation then shifts to a modified experiment where a neodymium magnet would be dropped into a tube filled with electrolyte water and an electric current would be passed through it. There are suggestions to simplify the experiment by using a copper pipe and plastic pipe filled with salty water and finding a way to stop the magnet from falling without external equipment. The conversation ends with the acknowledgement of a
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So, i am considering to do experiment on water and magnet for my research paper. So what i am planning to do is, i will drop a strong magnet on the water from a particular height and i will record down the height of the 'jumping' water due to contact with the magnet upon landing on water. So what i want to know is, if i vary the height of the magnet from the water, would the height of the 'jumping' water vary as well? Or is there any possible variable which i can change to get a nice graph? Or even, do you think this is even a doable experiment?

Comments and recommendations are highly appreciated. THanks
 
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Why a magnet? Why do you think a magnet dropped into water will produce a different result than say a rock.
 
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i believe that pure H20 would have no reaction from a magnetic field.

The only possible reaction would be that of MINERALS in the water. Unless the water itself had a very large composition of minerals that could be affected by a magnetic field, you will not see any difference at all.

Do i think it's a doable experiment ? No. Water as we know it ( consumable by humans ) wouldn't be affected by a magnet in this world. Or at least to a level that you can actually test.
 
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Thanks for all the suggestions guys.
So, i just consulted with my teacher, and i modify my experiment a bit. I will still be using neodymium magnet and drop it down to a tube of water. The water will be added with electrolytes, such as salt or acid, and i will pass electric current through water. So, the water will act as a resistor. So, what i want to measure is, how long does it take for the magnet to fall down to the bottom of the tube filled with water with different values of current/voltage.

So, what about his new concept?? do you think this experiment is better or what? Comments and suggestions are appreciated. Thanks.
 
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cibui said:
So, what about his new concept?? do you think this experiment is better or what? Comments and suggestions are appreciated. Thanks.

Don’t send any current through the water, this will only complicate things.

Perhaps do this experiment in a slightly different way. Establish first the exact weight and field strength of the magnet and the electrical resistance of a copper pipe. Then drop the magnet in this pipe without any water. Record time taken and work out its speed. This should give you some idea of currents and voltage generated in side the copper. Note that there are 2 opposing currents operating!
Then insert this copper pipe inside a bigger plastic pipe and fill the space in between the pipes with salty water. The magnet should fall slower and you should be able to calculate its resistivity.

This way you can do your experiment without having to deal with any of the other properties of water which will only interfere with the results. You could of course also skip the copper pipe experiment and just use 2 plastic pipes with water between them.

Now find a way to completely stop the magnet from falling without the use of any external equipment. That would make my day!:devil:
 
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Per Oni said:
Don’t send any current through the water, this will only complicate things.

Perhaps do this experiment in a slightly different way. Establish first the exact weight and field strength of the magnet and the electrical resistance of a copper pipe. Then drop the magnet in this pipe without any water. Record time taken and work out its speed. This should give you some idea of currents and voltage generated in side the copper. Note that there are 2 opposing currents operating!
Then insert this copper pipe inside a bigger plastic pipe and fill the space in between the pipes with salty water. The magnet should fall slower and you should be able to calculate its resistivity.

This way you can do your experiment without having to deal with any of the other properties of water which will only interfere with the results. You could of course also skip the copper pipe experiment and just use 2 plastic pipes with water between them.

Now find a way to completely stop the magnet from falling without the use of any external equipment. That would make my day!:devil:

hey, that's great idea...
i am going to try that soon
thanks a lot for the suggestions
 

FAQ: Experimenting with Water and Magnet: Comments Welcome

What materials do I need for experimenting with water and magnet?

For this experiment, you will need a magnet, a container filled with water, and various small objects such as paper clips, coins, and aluminum foil.

How do I perform the experiment?

Start by filling the container with water and placing the magnet on the side of the container. Then, drop different objects into the water to observe their interactions with the magnet. You can also move the magnet around and see how it affects the objects in the water.

What will I observe during the experiment?

You will notice that some objects, like paper clips and coins, will be attracted to the magnet and stick to it. Other objects, like aluminum foil, may not be attracted to the magnet at all. You may also see the water bending or forming ripples around the magnet.

What does this experiment demonstrate?

This experiment demonstrates the magnetic properties of water and how it can interact with other objects. It also shows how magnetic fields can affect the movement of objects.

Are there any safety precautions I should take while performing this experiment?

Yes, it is important to handle the magnet with care as it can be very strong and may cause harm if swallowed. Also, make sure to clean up any spilled water to avoid slipping. Adult supervision is recommended for younger children.

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