Explain to me why the net force is found this way?

In summary, the second crewman should pull with a force of 130N Southwest at an angle of 45 degrees above the horizontal Northwest in order to achieve a net force of forward in the Y direction.
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Homework Statement


Two crewmen pull a raft through a lock. One crewman pulls with a force of 130N Southwest at an angle of 34 degrees below the horizontal. The second crewman pulls at an angle of 45 degrees above the horizontal Northwest. With what force should the second crewman pull so that the net force of the two crewmen is in the forward direction?


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I am pretty sure I am missing the obvious here but why would you do:
Fsin45 = 130sin34 ?
 
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Answer looks correct. Do you have any problem in the method used?
 
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Yeah, I don't quite understand why you would do it that way.

I was thinking of Fcos45 = 130cos214 since it's on the x-axis.
 
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agentlee said:

Homework Statement


Two crewmen pull a raft through a lock. One crewman pulls with a force of 130N Southwest at an angle of 34 degrees below the horizontal. The second crewman pulls at an angle of 45 degrees above the horizontal Northwest. With what force should the second crewman pull so that the net force of the two crewmen is in the forward direction?
What is the 'forward direction'? West?
When you write below/above horizontal, do you mean, respectively, South and North of West?
 
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agentlee said:
Yeah, I don't quite understand why you would do it that way.

I was thinking of Fcos45 = 130cos214 since it's on the x-axis.


"Cos" gives you the force in the dirction the boat is moving.

"Sin" gives you the side to side force on the boat. If you want the boat to go straight ahead what must that sum to?

[STRIKE]The equation..

Fsin45 = 130sin34

..is actually missing two terms (one on each side) that have been canceled because they are equal.[/STRIKE]

Edit: Scratch that last bit.
 
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I think a diagram would save time.
 
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agentlee said:
http://www.csun.edu/~phys100a/solutions_cadavid/hw4-ch5.pdf
I found the problem here #28. I just don't understand why you would use sin and not cos. My professor said that whichever the angle is being made with, you would use cos with that axis.
If you wanted to calculate the net force in the forward (X) direction you would use cos, but that's not what you're after here. What you need is for the Y components of the two forces to cancel, so the angle of interest in each case is to the Y axis.
 
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The diagram clarifies the problem. It confirms it's just a 2D problem not a 3D.

I have split the vectors into two components which might help. Remember that..

Sin(∠) = Opposite / Hypotenuse

so

Opposite = Hypotenuse * Sin(∠)
 

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